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    Seriously bothers the heck out of me...

    Siphon Mp and Tp. Very useful spells, till you reach category of mobs that make them absolutely worthless. Now here is my beef with the undead. They are dead.

    What does Siphon Mp and Tp work on living things, but their description says works best of DEAD mobs. So why can't I absorb either of these traits!?

    Now I know Final Fantasy doesn't follow lore like other MMOs or Rpgs. When I think of undead like skeletons, I think of a certain class. Necromacer. What does a Necromancer do? Revives the dead. What does it take revive the dead, and keep the dead sustained? Magic. So by that what should an undead mob be constantly surrounded by? MAGIC!!!

    I find it silly Skeletons use that pillar of soul attack, fomors can use spells, and so can ghosts, which is all forms of magic. If I can't absorb it, then they shouldn't be able to be moving because they have no magic around them. Even if the undead were considered lich status, it would have a living soul inside the dead body. Still needs magic to keep the soul from being trapped there and to make the body move.

    You can't use technology of this game to bring them to life. If technology was used where is the device that should on them at all times or some kind of device attached to the body to receive signals to move?

    tl;dr - Make Siphon Mp/Tp work on undead mobs.

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    Are you trying to bring logic into a fantasy game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    Are you trying to bring logic into a fantasy game?
    Why are you always trolling?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chardrizard View Post
    Are you trying to bring logic into a fantasy game?
    Fantasy logic to a fasntasy game good sir! Somethings must be explained or it simply can't be.
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    Well he does make a good point and I too find it rather annoying that you can't siphon at least MP from them. Unless they implemented some sort of lore explaining how they move around without magic then OPs statement still makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CupDeNoodles View Post
    Well he does make a good point and I too find it rather annoying that you can't siphon at least MP from them. Unless they implemented some sort of lore explaining how they move around without magic then OPs statement still makes sense.
    Something has to be moving the skeleton, either it's someone's magic or a technology that's all it can be really. If it were techonology then Siphon MP/Tp and Drain couldn't work. But there isn't anything like that on the skeletons body to prove that. So it can only be magic which should be able to be absorbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    Something has to be moving the skeleton, either it's someone's magic or a technology that's all it can be really. If it were techonology then Siphon MP/Tp and Drain couldn't work. But there isn't anything like that on the skeletons body to prove that. So it can only be magic which should be able to be absorbed.
    Restless spirits from beyond maybe idk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinrya-Geki View Post
    Something has to be moving the skeleton, either it's someone's magic or a technology that's all it can be really. If it were techonology then Siphon MP/Tp and Drain couldn't work. But there isn't anything like that on the skeletons body to prove that. So it can only be magic which should be able to be absorbed.
    You never know, maybe they are revived through nanobot, which your eyes can't see due to the size. The Beyond is teaming with Holographic Spirit and Nano-Enhanced Undead! Which explains why Cure hit them hard, because Magic screws up Science, unless it's Magitek!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MariyaShidou View Post
    You never know, maybe they are revived through nanobot, which your eyes can't see due to the size. The Beyond is teaming with Holographic Spirit and Nano-Enhanced Undead! Which explains why Cure hit them hard, because Magic screws up Science, unless it's Magitek!
    lmao!

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    For as long as I can remember, absorb spells like Drain, Aspir/Osmose/Siphon MP always had an opposite effect on undead in the Final Fantasy games. Also white magic like Cure could damage undead and Life/Raise could kill it instantly. It's still kind of weird they didn't implement the "Cure can damage undead" in this game though.
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