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    Celes gambled versus Setzer and won.

    (She cheated, but it totally counts.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noxifer View Post
    And I could live with that... if the two outfits had any sort of equivalence in relation to the franchise. Name one FF game where one of the main characters' primary costume has been a sexy bunny suit.
    (Main characters as in playable characters that are not temporarily controlled NPCs.)
    We've had sexy bee suits, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SekhmetM View Post
    We've had sexy bee suits, though.
    He said a main character primary costume. We never got to wear the honey bee outfit. Cloud wore the dress, Aerith wore the red dress. None of the main characters ever got to put it on, just NPC's.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    This is just delicious. You people asked for this by choosing female characters in a Japanese developed game, and got the JP perspective on gender roles.

    Sharp, well dressed men, and adorable, self-confident women, as it is for much of the well-adjusted world. If you thought you could pick and choose some of these to fit your unique catgirl or bunnyboy, I'd suggest a Bioware game.
    They have international customers. If they only want to appeal to their culture or their own perspective, of course they have to except to run into problems.
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    Last edited by Meier; 02-17-2015 at 05:09 AM.

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    A couple crossdressers whining about costumes won't show up as even the smallest blip in their stock portfolio.

    Also, I'm not the most devoted FF scholar, are there ANY female characters closely associated with the casino/entertainment industry similar to Setzer, and thus worthy of representation?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    Also, I'm not the most devoted FF scholar, are there ANY female characters closely associated with the casino/entertainment industry similar to Setzer, and thus worthy of representation?
    FFX-2 (y'know, the one recently HD remastered) had four (Yuna, Rikku, Paine and Leblanc) outfits in the Lady Luck dressphere. Selphie from VIII has a gambler's limit break. Corsairs from XI had a similar outfit and RNG-related abilities (I think, I never played it). But even then, what Setzer is wearing isn't very different from what Faris (from V) used to wear, which showed up in Lightning Returns, so it should look good on female characters as well.

    Also, look up Faris. Crossdressing has been part of Final Fantasy franchise on an obvious and memorable scale since 1992.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    A couple crossdressers whining about costumes won't show up as even the smallest blip in their stock portfolio.

    Also, I'm not the most devoted FF scholar, are there ANY female characters closely associated with the casino/entertainment industry similar to Setzer, and thus worthy of representation?
    Yuna is a singer in X-2, does that count enough for "entertainment industry"?

    that being said, I'm kinda disappointed the outfits are like this, but can't say I'm wildly surprised, I knew they'd do something that would make me not all that interested in the Gold Saucer in some way or another (Figured it'd be gender-locked costumes, or a cash shop method to get ahead there). I might pop into the saucer to check it out, but I'll have zero interest in collecting the costume now, and won't be spending my time doing so now
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    Last edited by Ilitsa; 02-17-2015 at 11:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilitsa View Post
    Yuna is a singer in X-2, does that count enough for "entertainment industry"?
    (Ahem, that one in the picture is LeBlanc...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ippiki View Post
    A couple crossdressers whining about costumes won't show up as even the smallest blip in their stock portfolio.

    Also, I'm not the most devoted FF scholar, are there ANY female characters closely associated with the casino/entertainment industry similar to Setzer, and thus worthy of representation?
    I know this post was a while back, but what about Maria? Considering the whole plot to kidnap her and Celes having having to dress as her and whatnot. Sure it'd be pretty much another dress, but it'd be much, much better than what we are getting.
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    Heh, that's too bad. I looked forward to wear Setzer's outfit as a glamour replacement. Oh well~
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    Having outfits be gender locked when there's no real reason to (i.e. nothing about the outfits that particularly relates to one gender over another) is, on its own, mildly annoying. They did this with the Lightning Strikes event, where one clearly unisex outfit was given only to female characters and a completely different (but also clearly unisex) outfit was given only to male characters. But at least that time there was some equality in the type and relevance of the two outfits.

    This new example, however, between an elaborate and highly detailed reproduction of an iconic character's outfit for half the population and a generic sexy bunny for the other half, goes beyond mildly annoying to downright insulting. We should be getting either both outfits for both genders, or at least equivalent ones. Provide both a detailed and classy reproduction of a previous character's outfit to both genders, and provide a skimpy sexy outfit to both genders.

    I used to be so happy with how well SE was providing gender equality in their designs. Both genders get some skimpy sexy outfits. Both genders get some elegant clothes. Both genders get some badass fully armoured styles. That they're now moving away from that towards the "males are real characters and females just eye candy" stereotype is really disappointing.
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