Lack of Coil static? Hmmm!

[polyhedral]

Yes, everyone but you is lazy. That's the only reason people haven't beat fcob. /s
And then there's people like myself, who doesn't give a crap about coil, at all. I don't want or need the headache involved with such content, period. That's not laziness, that's common sense keeping my sanity.

Some people keep saying the same things over and over, it doesn't make it any more true though. Just because you have a static, doesn't mean everyone can easily find one. Wear someone's else shoes for a bit and see how bad the community can be outside of your click.

Let's be real here. Coil isn't worth the headache. I quit complaining about accessing it many months ago and gave up on that content. It's not worth my time. The gear is ugly, the fights are too hard to find 7 other competent players, and even when you do that, you're spending weeks on the same fights for the same ugly gear, that's only good for coil itself; will be outdated in a few weeks.

You guys told us to just youtube the story, so I did. Why would I want to do it, when the story is all I cared about?

Do you think it's worth the headache to a person like myself? I'm 36 years old. I have real bills, real life things to take care of, and a real job that takes priority over this game everyday. Sure, most days I sign online for an hour or more to have fun doing the things I want to do in DF. Playing a game isn't a job, nor should it be.

This whole us vs them crap should stop now. Some of the same people that cry out "don't reward laziness" are only playing this game. This isn't the only game I care to play, and when things get too stressful in this game, I go to another one that is less stressful, and actually fun to play. Fun, think about that word for a bit, then think about coil. Are you honestly telling me that coil is fun for yourself? I wouldn't believe you even if you said yes. I watch these people stream and fail over and over and over and over again. Sure looks "fun" to me /s, the literal face-palms, the anxiety, and the cursing over mistakes so numerous I couldn't even begin counting how many I've viewed... Next some of ya'll will be telling me that banging your head against a concrete wall is fun, and will defend that activity as being worthwhile, lol. Well, once again I'll rely on youtube to experience such actions instead of partaking in them, lol.

I've seen the story, on youtube, like you guys told me to do. That's all I cared about regarding coil. I guess I should say thanks for the tip. It saved quite a bit of my time already, (and head injuries).

I'll leave this conversation before your fangs come out for blood. You'll defend it til the bitter end, I'm sure, all 2168 of you, lol. That's about the number of people doing fcob atm, worldwide according to achievements.

[Sapphic]

Some people keep saying the same things over and over, it doesn't make it any more true though. Just because you have a static, doesn't mean everyone can easily find one. Wear someone's else shoes for a bit and see how bad the community can be outside of your click.

I didn't magically make a Static appear, I activelly went out there, joined an FC proved my worth and got asked to join. Those I played with in 1.0 didn't come back for 2.0 also I started anew on a fresh server with 2.0. I thought new game, new start so I didn't know anyone on the server whatsoever. Took me about 6 months to find, but didn't give up or complain during that time either. Now been with this static since then.

It's a fact, MOST are lazy, why do you think so many go for the path of least resistance every time they can XD

[polyhedral]

It's a fact, MOST are lazy, why do you think so many go for the path of least resistance every time they can XD

Or, people just don't care to do it, like myself. Why call me lazy, when I don't want to do it, period? That's not laziness, that is common sense saving my time for things that entertain myself.

[Aethaeryn]

It's a fact, MOST are lazy, why do you think so many go for the path of least resistance every time they can XD

I quit coil shortly after clearing t8 several months ago because it got too frustrating having to pug people to replace static members that couldn't make it, or having to find new members when someone left the static / wasn't a good fit. It's not fun trying to progress through content but having different people in your group every week, so I stopped trying. If that's lazy to you, then fine, but I went through a lot more than six months of this experience. I've had four coil groups now since 2.0, and they've all had huge issues with scheduling.

MMORPG players are generally older now, and it's tough to get 8 people that can spend the same 2+ days together every week for 3+ hours in one sitting. It's obviously not impossible, but the struggle in finding 7 other people compatible to you in personality, play style, and scheduling is just not worth the effort for everyone.

I'm hoping the normal mode for Alexander will be more of the type of thing I can just grab a few friends and some randoms and tackle without the high level of stress with playing group jump rope. I'm sure there will still be some challenge involved, but trying to get through t7 (pre-nerf) with 1-2 pugged players at different comfort levels than my static was just unbelievably frustrating.

[Sapphic]

I quit coil shortly after clearing t8 several months ago because it got too frustrating having to pug people to replace static members that couldn't make it, or having to find new members when someone left the static .

At least you tried, unlike many. Also we never pug, if someone can't make it for RL reasons, we don't run that night, we do other stuff. Maybe farm t9 a bit more for alts/alt jobs. Or help FC members get their coil/primals clear. Or do crazy stuff like 8 BLM pratorium XD

[Deculture]

I'm hoping the normal mode for Alexander will be more of the type of thing I can just grab a few friends and some randoms and tackle without the high level of stress with playing group jump rope. I'm sure there will still be some challenge involved, but trying to get through t7 (pre-nerf) with 1-2 pugged players at different comfort levels than my static was just unbelievably frustrating.

Going by this: http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...n_savage_coil/

I'm not sure how normal Alexander will be. If they tune it to normal Coil levels then I wouldn't count on it being easily puggable, seeing as how they stated that Alexander HM is going to be even harder than SCoB Savage is and it looks like they're making it so raiders will have to gear up via normal mode first before tackling HM.

Also, normal mode Alexander will apparently have lower level ilvl gear as rewards compared to HM Alexander.

[Sparktacus]

I quit coil shortly after clearing t8 several months ago because it got too frustrating having to pug people to replace static members that couldn't make it, or having to find new members when someone left the static / wasn't a good fit. It's not fun trying to progress through content but having different people in your group every week, so I stopped trying. If that's lazy to you, then fine, but I went through a lot more than six months of this experience. I've had four coil groups now since 2.0, and they've all had huge issues with scheduling.

This has got to be the number one killer of groups. I have led a team since BCoB and in that time countless members have come and gone. The persistence of the leader in recruiting is a prime factor of the longevity of the group. However it is super frustrating when every week someone is missing. Its compounded by the fact that a pug might get loot/tome/coat/twine your group needs more to progress. It started to get a lot better when i used the app GroupMe so everyone is in one giant group chat, if someone is late or going to be absent they can send everyone a message at once and none of our time is wasted wondering and waiting for someone to show up to raid that is otherwise priorly committed. To me that had been the most frustrating thing about leading. Attendance, and rerecruiting. You do catch a break sometimes and for awhile you get all 8 players that like playing together, play well together, and have fun together.

[Moqi]

Are you honestly telling me that coil is fun for yourself? I wouldn't believe you even if you said yes.

I find Coil fun now, and it only started with Second coil. I started BCOB merely for the story (and this is what still interests me the most), and I had to force myself to get past t5 because I absolutely hated t1-4 and 5 was too frustrating until I found the group of people I play with now. Then I enterted t6 feeling rather meh about raiding in general and instead I had so much fun. T6 is still my favourite turn, I could farm it for days and I hate farming! In 2 days I'll be stepping into T10 for the first time and I can't wait. I don't even care much about the gear, and I glamour everythig anyway. If I'm geared enough to progress that's good enough for me even if it isn't the best.

Sure looks "fun" to me /s, the literal face-palms, the anxiety, and the cursing over mistakes so numerous I couldn't even begin counting how many I've viewed...

That's why you find a group of people you are comfortable with. You make mistakes and you keep wiping but you can laugh it off and joke about it and the frustration and anxiety goes away. Not saying it's easy to find a group, it took me a while to find one and I have way less responsability than you, but there are people roughly your age or older who can still do that. It's not easy sometimes but it's not impossible either! If you ever feel like giving Coil a second chance, it may take some time but when you find the right group of people everything will be a lot more enjoyable.