Lack of Coil static? Hmmm!

[Jim_Berry]

I'm surprised that there has been an increase of players looking for a static for FCoB. Many statics began with the first coil. What happened?

In any case, I'd imagine finding a static for FCoB would be difficult now, considering those who ARE on farm are pretty much sticking with their group, and those not on FCoB are sitting at T9.

[Nghthawk]

I see groups recruiting every day, some for advanced turns in TFCoB (12+) and others newly forming.

[AyaLiz]

Many statics began with the first coil. What happened?

There's no reason to start with first coil at this point. Anything but T5 is consistently oneshot in duty finder, T6-T8 also largely a waste of a static's raid time at this point since the gear is largely obsolete due to poetics gear and world of darkness drops, not to mention duty finder groups also clear these turns every so often. I personally cleared T6-8 before ever stepping into T1 and T2 (back when second coil was on lockout) and only recently saw T3, it was shortly before clearing T12 I believe. Statics start on T9 because it's the first piece of content that requires coordination beyond what you find in duty finder.

You're also practically answering your own question here. You say that there are many people looking for a static but only few groups recruiting, but that's the exact situation that results in new statics forming. There shouldn't be a shortage of groups if there is a demand.

[Sapphic]

You're also practically answering your own question here. You say that there are many people looking for a static but only few groups recruiting, but that's the exact situation that results in new statics forming. There shouldn't be a shortage of groups if there is a demand.

Most are lazy and prefer to put there energy into complaining they can't find a static than actively creating a static if they can't find one. If there are "many people looking for a static" like OP claims, then it only takes one of them to start one. Then recruit from all of those looking ^_^

But as I said, people are lazy.

Also, it doesn't hurt to run t5 and then t9 a few times to get practice running together on easier content before jumping into FCoB. As I did on my SCH alt, got somme practice and experience in with CoB and SCoB before attempting t10, even tho I'm already on t13 with my main.

[LionKing]

Being an off-prime time player of Behemoth server (Aus/Nz here), it is a nightmare to find, either a static or people to form a static.

Sometimes, living in the other part of the world is a very very huge advantages, not being lazy, mind you.

[Krr]

First Coil is easily DFable with a wait time and Second Coil is up to T9 now. If DF isn't working, clear PFs are often successful for anything <T8.

Players seek statics for Final Coil because it is the only way to experience the content on most servers. More players are also looking for statics because more players have 'capped out' their poetics gear and suchforth, and have no other ways to progress their main job.

Statics don't spontaneously form because they don't just require 8 players; they require 8 players of synergistic mindsets and playstyles in the same time zone to function well and a leader or leaders to coordinate and document their play times and handle recruitment of new players.

[Gardes]

Most are lazy and prefer to put there energy into complaining they can't find a static than actively creating a static if they can't find one.

While I'm not disagreeing with this..

If there are "many people looking for a static" like OP claims, then it only takes one of them to start one. Then recruit from all of those looking ^_^

Grabbing 7 other random people in the coil hangout spot with the same wants doesn't mean it'll work out. There's the schedule issue. You can find people who can coil on the same DAY but those very same people might have clashing hours. Recent example of mine: My group coils for 2 hours a day, 4 days a week and we've been dwelling on t12 for more than a month now. We lost two weeks because someone had something he needed to attend to. Then this week I had to miss 2 days. Naturally everyone is getting antsy (so was I). I tried to compromise and asked the group if we can go earlier than the scheduled time. Some was okay with that, some was not. Then I asked if we can move it forward by a day or two instead. This time the people who are okay/not okay with the first suggestion got reversed. So yeah, scheduling is a major hurdle.

Then there's the attitude factor. All 8 people need to get along with the group as a whole at least. Let me tell you, I've only had 2 statics since arr launch but I've had at least 6 versions of the 2nd static and went through so many players who came and go. Some of them are just down right whack. One of them got invited to start coiling with us and on the first day, in the middle of t6 re-training, went afk after a wipe without saying anything and after 15 mins of waiting, he finally responded and revealed that he's preparing dinner for family members and refused to stop and just made 7 other people stand in front of the boss while he continues preparing dinner (why didnt he even say anything before we start). Then there's someone who wasn't doing very well AND making racist remarks non stop. At first we just wrote it off just as vulgar jokes but it just kept intensifying and his performance got worse too. He left stomping off after we left him out of the group, thinking that everyone is out to get him and blaming their mistakes only on him, before wishing death on someone who isnt even in the fc's static (said person has a serious illness).

Then there's people who got helped through t5 because we wanted to bring them into our scob group (they resubbed after stopping 1 month before scob release). They were behind, soldiery wise and decided to change jobs for coil, which we accomodated to. After the original job spot owner moved to another job, we found out that they didnt want to spend soldiery on their new jobs because they think they'll be able to rely on the 'cool' scob gear despite being like 4 months late to scob and starting from scratch and would rather pour soldiery on to another class they were not going to take too coil. Like...what?! What's worse, these new to the group people told us that they needed a week or two to sort out irl issues but after said time was up, they just never logged back in..

That's not even everything for my scob season ordeal. At least the latest version of my static only has scheduling issues so far. 1st t12 win like 4 hours ago after 3-4 weeks of delays one way or another!

[polyhedral]

Yes, everyone but you is lazy. That's the only reason people haven't beat fcob. /s
And then there's people like myself, who doesn't give a crap about coil, at all. I don't want or need the headache involved with such content, period. That's not laziness, that's common sense keeping my sanity.

Some people keep saying the same things over and over, it doesn't make it any more true though. Just because you have a static, doesn't mean everyone can easily find one. Wear someone's else shoes for a bit and see how bad the community can be outside of your click.

Let's be real here. Coil isn't worth the headache. I quit complaining about accessing it many months ago and gave up on that content. It's not worth my time. The gear is ugly, the fights are too hard to find 7 other competent players, and even when you do that, you're spending weeks on the same fights for the same ugly gear, that's only good for coil itself; will be outdated in a few weeks.

You guys told us to just youtube the story, so I did. Why would I want to do it, when the story is all I cared about?

Do you think it's worth the headache to a person like myself? I'm 36 years old. I have real bills, real life things to take care of, and a real job that takes priority over this game everyday. Sure, most days I sign online for an hour or more to have fun doing the things I want to do in DF. Playing a game isn't a job, nor should it be.

This whole us vs them crap should stop now. Some of the same people that cry out "don't reward laziness" are only playing this game. This isn't the only game I care to play, and when things get too stressful in this game, I go to another one that is less stressful, and actually fun to play. Fun, think about that word for a bit, then think about coil. Are you honestly telling me that coil is fun for yourself? I wouldn't believe you even if you said yes. I watch these people stream and fail over and over and over and over again. Sure looks "fun" to me /s, the literal face-palms, the anxiety, and the cursing over mistakes so numerous I couldn't even begin counting how many I've viewed... Next some of ya'll will be telling me that banging your head against a concrete wall is fun, and will defend that activity as being worthwhile, lol. Well, once again I'll rely on youtube to experience such actions instead of partaking in them, lol.

I've seen the story, on youtube, like you guys told me to do. That's all I cared about regarding coil. I guess I should say thanks for the tip. It saved quite a bit of my time already, (and head injuries).

I'll leave this conversation before your fangs come out for blood. You'll defend it til the bitter end, I'm sure, all 2168 of you, lol. That's about the number of people doing fcob atm, worldwide according to achievements.

[Sapphic]

Some people keep saying the same things over and over, it doesn't make it any more true though. Just because you have a static, doesn't mean everyone can easily find one. Wear someone's else shoes for a bit and see how bad the community can be outside of your click.

I didn't magically make a Static appear, I activelly went out there, joined an FC proved my worth and got asked to join. Those I played with in 1.0 didn't come back for 2.0 also I started anew on a fresh server with 2.0. I thought new game, new start so I didn't know anyone on the server whatsoever. Took me about 6 months to find, but didn't give up or complain during that time either. Now been with this static since then.

It's a fact, MOST are lazy, why do you think so many go for the path of least resistance every time they can XD

[Sapphic]

While I'm not disagreeing with this..

Agree it does take trial and error, but it also requires one or more people to step forwards and take that initiative also. Which, as is shown with how many aren't willing to do even that when it comes to tanking, most won't. Not to mention, it does not have to be just one person taking full responsibility to organise and recruit. Everyone can help. Same with FCs, leaving everything on the shoulders of the FC leader, can be too much for one person and takes away the fun of it being a game. Everyone, whether it is a static or an FC can do their part to share in the responsibilites.