How to handle being double teamed?

[zeopower6]

Thing is, we cannot go up our ramp because we can plainly see Adders highs/fevers waiting at our landing spot more often than not, so the only options for both A and/or B and/or C is to go up the OTHER ramps which results in what you mention. It's not really 'fishy' or that we WANT to focus Flames or whatever because we also go up the Adders ramp as well. It's really dependent on what Flames does after they deal with Temple and if they stay to fight the Storm there or leave and get attacked from the rear by the teams we send there. It's really up to you guys as a GC to figure it out for yourselves.

I can see strategies changing pretty soon however since it's about the time when people can/will swap GCs from Adders/Flames/Storm to others.

[Cidel]

An accurate observation of GC dynamics in slaughter as of late

In several games I played the other day, this is exactly what happened on a couple occasions. Mind you, Maelstrom tends to not bother communicating until the thick of battle when it is almost too late or when its time to start pointing fingers.


But the other times I've noticed Maelstrom chronically pushing Adders at the Heliodrome only to get double-teamed by Flames in the process. In those matches, Flames usually ended up winning.

But it any case, if people want to break free from this "Adders dominating Helidrome the entire game/camping ramps" or notice their GC being the target of frequent gang-ups, then I suggest trying to alter approaches radically to do something the other 2 GCs won't expect. I realize this is incredibly tough to do with a full alliance of randoms, but it's really the only reasonable way I can think of overcoming getting "ganged-up" on.

[zeopower6]

It's a bit difficult with so many new players lately but I think we will get to the point where everyone is able to do more than what they are currently 'stuck' doing. At first I wasn't entirely sure how Slaughter worked until the 5th or 6th game and no one ever really said anything about timing because they didn't know either. Now I think people are starting to get the hang of it and perhaps we'll see change as that "GC swap week" is coming soon.

Personally, I think the main issue is Adders which kind of throws a wrench into anything else that the other GCs tries on Primal, all staying at mid in addition to having healer/caster teams almost exclusively for those first few days wasn't really motivating. My LS was getting irritated at it and just didn't queue because it was happening so often that there wasn't much you could really do other than do the exact same thing (CC -> LB as caster). There needs to be changes to how casters work and maybe then we will see strategies change.

[zeopower6]

Reply length is an issue here. Anyway, I think even now things are looking up at least on the Storm side. Lots of wins in the last day or two and morale is generally up aside from the times when a lot of people who don't really know how to target highs/fever start playing and then we kind of have an issue, lol.

As you wished, it seems strats are changing as of today! We will see how this changes things in the next few days~

[TheWaywardWind]

As you wished, it seems strats are changing as of today! We will see how this changes things in the next few days~

Because the Flames created a new workaround strategy. Adder is going to keep coming in 3rd now until THEY switch THEIR strategy. They're now losing more than Mael and Flames.
Thank god for that, too.

[FUNgineer]

I like how the OP's datacenter was aether and how quickly this turned into a primal thread :V

[rowrow]

Go to bed mimi

[cinequoinon]

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I know things are probably changing now, but just to make it crystal clear about Primal, since I saw/was part of Maelstrom strategy being devised: Adder was dominating Slaughter because they were doing very coordinated Cometeors. Since they stayed in mid and were pretty good at it, Mael started to go for the side nodes. We had to concentrate efforts on Flames side because you were actually competing with us, so it was pretty much the only thing we could do considering how badly coordinated Maelstrom was with all the new people etc. It actually worked reasonably well, as we managed to avoid Adder's Cometeor Spam Fest attention a little bit. We weren't trying to screw with Flames, we were trying to make do with what we had.

[DividedSky]

Don't make us adders mad...we WILL zerg you from behind and wipe your entire alliance. We have people on each sever ocassionalky sharing strats during the first 2 mins. Someone even started calling my strat the Hyperion strategy. i was kind of shocked. Now that I see this analysis I'll create a new strat and macro it...get ready!

[DividedSky]

And just FYI adders don't coordinate limit breaks. At least no one from Hyperion does. Its probably just a natural opening when we all decide to make you go boom.