Spell request for Scholar [Dev]

[Bigcat9715]

Scholar already gets a Shell-type buff. Check your Eos petbar. And Sacred Soil gives further mitigation.

I'm talking about a 30 min buff.

[Parawill]

I don't really see a point in adding in the spell Shell when Proshell does what you want but better. The word "Proshell" also includes the word Shell, which I do believe is just Square Enix's way of combining the two spells without needing to have to actually use Protect, Shell and then (Swiftcast+) Stoneskin II.

What is your reason as to why you would like the spell Shell versus bringing in a White Mage that can use Proshell?

[Bigcat9715]

I don't really see a point in adding in the spell Shell when Proshell does what you want but better. The word "Proshell" also includes the word Shell, which I do believe is just Square Enix's way of combining the two spells without needing to have to actually use Protect, Shell and then (Swiftcast+) Stoneskin II.

What is your reason as to why you would like the spell Shell versus bringing in a White Mage that can use Proshell?

Because I play scholar.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Because I play scholar.

I facepalmed so hard that my palm became my face...

So by this logic, White Mages should get:
Benediction with 3s recast
A fairy pet too
Shroud on a 1 minute recast
unavoidable DoTs
stoneskin as additional effect to Cure II

[Parawill]

So by this logic, White Mages should get:
Benediction with 3s recast
A fairy pet too
Shroud on a 1 minute recast
unavoidable DoTs
stoneskin as additional effect to Cure II

I could spin all day with that Benediction recast time! I'd love it LOL!

[Bigcat9715]

I facepalmed so hard that my palm became my face...

So by this logic, White Mages should get:
Benediction with 3s recast
A fairy pet too
Shroud on a 1 minute recast
unavoidable DoTs
stoneskin as additional effect to Cure II

Hey, was just answering his question. He asked why should shell exist when I could just bring in a white mage. It's because I play scholar and so do alot of other people. Besides your list is a bit ridiculous.

Strangely as I run through dungeons as either dps or tank I see very few WHM, but it seems that scholar has become the norm. You could have made the argument that proshell is there to make up for the fact that scholar has pets and can place barriers on people, and white mage is just a walking first aid.

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

If anything is ridiculous, it's the existence of this topic.

For starters: Any content where there is no white mage present, mainly due to 4-man content, has no significant magic damage flying around anywhere.
Additionally: If there is continuous magic damage present, Eos' Fey Covenant actually offers more magical defense than Shell does for the moment you need it.
Lastly: They're dungeons, content that has nearly no difficulty value. If you desperately -need- that magical defense effect on the tank to be able to make healing work, I simply don't know what to say.

The list I mentioned may be ridiculous, but it's in line with your way of thinking: If there's no scholar for dungeons

[VanilleFang]

Strangely as I run through dungeons as either dps or tank I see very few WHM, but it seems that scholar has become the norm. You could have made the argument that proshell is there to make up for the fact that scholar has pets and can place barriers on people, and white mage is just a walking first aid.

What game are you playing? I EASILY see that about 75% of the healers are WHM. Run Alliance Raids, you'll rarely see more SCHs then WHMs(You usually see 4 WHMs or at least I do) I can't see how anyone can say that SCH has become the "norm". There may be more SCHs going into dungeons currently but that's because Dungeons are easy and SCHs make them even easier (unless its a Speedrun dungeon, then
WHM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SCH) by basically just being another DPS with a heal bot. Besides, Magic Defense isn't needed in dungeons, usually.

I main SCH and this is one of the silliest things I've ever read suggested for a SCH. Not only is it a huge balance issue, it is not needed and you have no REAL reason you think it should be in the game.

Side: You obviously know nothing about a WHM if you call them a "walking first aid".

Snip.

I love you.


On the topic of Macros: other than allowing me to cast E4E and Virus on my designated target while targeting the boss(mob)/Tank, a Rez macro, and having a Rouse>Fey Illumination>Whispering Dawn macro, I don't see how macros are THAT useful for a SCH. I only use those, and 3 Cross hotbars and I find it easy.

[radioactive_lego]

SCH's dont have enough spells? I for one hope 2.0 brings new spells that REPLACE the lower lever spells, or simply improve on them passively. Gamepad hotbars are saturated enough already!

[Bigcat9715]

SCH's dont have enough spells? I for one hope 2.0 brings new spells that REPLACE the lower lever spells, or simply improve on them passively. Gamepad hotbars are saturated enough already!

True, if macros won't in the game it would be insanely hard to play scholar on gamepad.