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    LineageRazor's Avatar
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    I think that shoehorning Vampires into Heavensward would be doing them a disservice. Let Heavensward be about the Dragons - the Voidsent, which I presume is the category under which Vampires would be included, deserve an expansion of their own.

    No one in Eorzea, not even the Thaumaturges, know a great deal about Voidsent - just that they exist in this other realm and can't seem to get enough of clawing their way into this one to chew on the inhabitants. I'd like a whole expansion to tackle the topic, and it would be a great place for Vampires to shine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    but as the Hildibrand questline revealed
    Ul'dah used a zombie plague against Sil'dih. Who knows what else is hidden by the sand.
    Pff. Shows what you know! This is totally not what my Ul'dahan history textbook says!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Werewolf View Post
    Final Fantasy had werewolves too

    I would like to see them in Final Fantasy XIV as well ^..^
    Sure, why not? Vampires can't be far from their old enemies. Just one thing. No werepires! That word makes no linguistic sense whatsoever, and even if it did, it would mean a human-vampire hybrid.

    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    I can see the dark side of white magic as some kind of vampirism. Amdapor apperantly was experimenting on thing that shook the foundation of reality.

    If whm= using energy to heal then surely a step beyond that is using life to heal to the point of immortality.
    Even better. You need life force to heal, don't you? That's the whole problem in the conjurer questline. Normally you call upon the elementals, or if you are a n00b conjurer, you use your own lifeforce. Now, if you were to use the life force of the people in close proximity...hmmmm. Actually I like the idea of vampires being white mages. Throws all the black-white morality out the window nicely.
    Quote Originally Posted by elreed View Post
    So....Shiva is her grandma???
    Since Shiva is long dead and Ishgardian, I doubt she's grandmother, but they could be related. Only a bit more distantly.
    Quote Originally Posted by LineageRazor View Post
    I think that shoehorning Vampires into Heavensward would be doing them a disservice. Let Heavensward be about the Dragons - the Voidsent, which I presume is the category under which Vampires would be included, deserve an expansion of their own.
    No one in Eorzea, not even the Thaumaturges, know a great deal about Voidsent - just that they exist in this other realm and can't seem to get enough of clawing their way into this one to chew on the inhabitants. I'd like a whole expansion to tackle the topic, and it would be a great place for Vampires to shine.


    Pff. Shows what you know! This is totally not what my Ul'dahan history textbook says!
    True. A Dark Gothic expansion with vampires, phantom trains and witches *cough* Ultimecia *cough* would be nice, but that would be much harder to pull off. It all depends on where the story is going. You see, we are focusing on dragons now, and the sins commited by Eorzeans go back at the very least to the Allagan Empire and the Meracydians. They are a huge part of the current plot. On the other hand, vampires can't make such claims. Yet. If however we get entagled in the social intrigue of Vampire Lords in Ishgardian society they would become important enough to warrant their own expansion.

    Well as the questline reveals, a secret society made sure that the true account remain hidded. That is, untill the Mandervilles came along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balipu View Post
    You are definitely right that Thanalan seems to be relatively safe from demons and undead, but as the Hildibrand questline revealed
    Ul'dah used a zombie plague against Sil'dih. Who knows what else is hidden by the sand.
    I might be wrong here, but I think this has been "revealed" since 1.20 (Lambs of Dalamud event where you entered Sil'dih Aqueducts).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwaeron View Post
    I might be wrong here, but I think this has been "revealed" since 1.20 (Lambs of Dalamud event where you entered Sil'dih Aqueducts).
    As far as I'm aware, you are correct - the destruction of Sil'dih by zombie apocalypse has long been known even back in 1.0 (Erik the Ala Mhigan scholar first mentioned it, you know, the MNK quest NPC). And it wasn't Ul'dah that were responsible either - Sil'dih actually were in fact the instigators of their own destruction, as the war with Ul'dah was going badly for them and they couldn't replace the increasingly large losses in troop numbers they were suffering, so they turned to zombifying their fallen troops out of desperation.

    Of course this backfired on them horribly, when the mechanism of the zombification (from what I understand, it was biological in nature), spread to Sil'dihian civilians as well, which naturally Ul'dah exploited to their advantage, turning a conflict which until then had been over scarce water supplies, into a holy crusade to send "these zombies straight back to Thal." Needless to say, Sil'dih didn't last long after that.

    So Sil'dih not only lost the war militarily, but also turned it into an utter public relations disaster. Hoisted by their own petard, indeed...

    In any event, the fall of Sil'dih has long been known - the Hildibrand questline only, to use a pun, fleshed it out more...
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    I liked the way vampire was presented as a sort of blue mage in Bravely Default, would be cool to see an interpretation of that in Eorzea. Alas, seems we'll never see blue mage the way we all really want to see it implemented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaerisKlyne View Post
    I liked the way vampire was presented as a sort of blue mage in Bravely Default, would be cool to see an interpretation of that in Eorzea. Alas, seems we'll never see blue mage the way we all really want to see it implemented.
    Which way would that be I wonder?

    As for bravely default vampires: Vamps do seem to gain strength by drinking the life out of others so it makes sense to look at them as sort of blue mages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaerisKlyne View Post
    I liked the way vampire was presented as a sort of blue mage in Bravely Default, would be cool to see an interpretation of that in Eorzea. Alas, seems we'll never see blue mage the way we all really want to see it implemented.
    I just looked up the Bravely Default vampires. Apart from the blue mage abilities it almost looks functional as a dd in xiv.
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    Let the vampires be a group of Duskwight, who still lives in the subterranean ruins of Gelmorra.
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    No whips please.

    A vampire class could be possible. But given model ideas rather than just a reskin, and background could be difficult to implement. (No wings)
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    Haukke Manor would be a nice setting for a vampire. Additionally, I think Lady Haukke was the closest to a vampire so far. Didn't she steal the life force of young women?
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