Idea regarding A & S Rank Hunts

[Zedd702]

I've looked in many threads here in this section and none have appeared to suggest what I am about to suggest regarding hunts (Specifically A & S Rank hunts). I realized that I will not be heard where I posted my suggestion, nor would receive proper feedback on it because it was a thread where people were pretty much talking about pulling early etc and it seemed a tad heated lol. So here is what I was suggesting:

What if they made A & S hunts an instance.

A portal would replace the monster at the hunts spawn location. Say once the portal is discovered by a player, a message to all players in the zone would appear on their screen (Orange for A Rank and Red for S) to alert all players that a hunt has been discovered. Once the location is discovered a timer will then begin counting down, say 5-8 minutes), which would allow plenty of time for others to get to the location.

Those that make it there before the others would be taken to the zone where they will be in a lockout circle, until the timer runs out. Once the timer hits 0, the fight commences. The hunts HP should scale to the amount of players that showed up for the instance.

Thoughts?

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Updated to: As soon as the hunt is discovered a lockout circle is placed on the monster for a 2-4 minute period and sends a message to all players on the map (Color based on rank) where the creature spawned to allow time for people to notify groups and get to the location.

[Nicobo]

... pretty much talking about pulling early etc ...Thoughts?

By reviewing current situation, I think the idea just changes "pulling early" to "discovering early" ^^;

[VTanner]

I just don't understand why they (SE) don't make the S & A ranks more like the Behemoth and Odin fights with a big pool of HP and some kick ass attacks. I also think a problem with the Hunts at the moment is the scarcity of S Ranks and to a degree the A ranks. You miss an S rank well that's it for quite a while and considering it has so low a HP pool it increases it's "desirability" for everyone. My only interest with Hunts is to get Alexandrites or at least get me a couple more but that is now so difficult to do since the seals have been increased AND there is Carbon Twine available.

Putting so many items into one type of event just adds more issues to be honest.

[Zedd702]

By reviewing current situation, I think the idea just changes "pulling early" to "discovering early" ^^;

I disagree. What I am referring to is that once the monster is spotted, that it is locked out immediately for about 5-8 minutes. The game generates a message to all players in that zone, that way people can alert their LS's FC or friends, so that they can get to the location before the time runs out. That way no one can complain about "early pulls." If you did not get there by the time the timer gets to zero, that's really your fault as if you think about 5-8 minutes is ALOT of time to allow players to get there to participate.

Anyone who would complain about discovering early with this change would seriously need mental help...

I just don't understand why they (SE) don't make the S & A ranks more like the Behemoth and Odin fights with a big pool of HP and some kick ass attacks. I also think a problem with the Hunts at the moment is the scarcity of S Ranks and to a degree the A ranks. You miss an S rank well that's it for quite a while and considering it has so low a HP pool it increases it's "desirability" for everyone. My only interest with Hunts is to get Alexandrites or at least get me a couple more but that is now so difficult to do since the seals have been increased AND there is Carbon Twine available.

Putting so many items into one type of event just adds more issues to be honest.

I'd even like to see this too, but it would require alot more work to each hunt than what I am suggesting.

[Nicobo]

I disagree. What I am referring to is that once the monster is spotted, that it is locked out immediately for about 5-8 minutes. The game generates a message to all players in that zone, that way people can alert their LS's FC or friends, so that they can get to the location before the time runs out. That way no one can complain about "early pulls." If you did not get there by the time the timer gets to zero, that's really your fault as if you think about 5-8 minutes is ALOT of time to allow players to get there to participate.

Anyone who would complain about discovering early with this change would seriously need mental help...

Just brain storming, for example, when right after a mob is discovered, if someone spotted another mark, then players joined the first mark may miss the second mark, and then they may blame the player who triggered the second mark as "discovering-early"

[Zedd702]

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Yes the timer could be reduced to 2-4 minutes (4 minutes being max). I just started the thread as a ROUGH idea. Will it need tweaks? Sure, but imho it's a fantastic idea. In reviewing what I wrote I would just change it to the hunt having the lock out circle for that time frame vs being escorted somewhere else. That would make more sense. Just lockout the hunt once discovered for the allotted time frame, technically they would not even need to scale the HP with this change.

Just brain storming, for example, when right after a mob is discovered, if someone spotted another mark, then players joined the first mark may miss the second mark, and then they may blame the player who triggered the second mark as "discovering-early"

I disagree. There is no such thing as "discovering early" with what I am proposing...

If that were the case people would not wait for this proposal to complain about that as it would technically be applied now rather than later. To add to that there are other sites that show windows that are open for said hunts. Hunts are always "discovered" before many know about it.

[Cadmar]

Why are people so afraid of competition? No. I do not like this idea.

People have been begging for open world fights since before launch. This is SE's (imo failed) attempt to attempt to give them some. Some people really enjoy the idea of "I found it first and now I get to kill it and reap the rewards." And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

[Zedd702]

Why are people so afraid of competition? No. I do not like this idea.

People have been begging for open world fights since before launch. This is SE's (imo failed) attempt to attempt to give them some. Some people really enjoy the idea of "I found it first and now I get to kill it and reap the rewards." And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

It's not about competition. It's apparent that you just like conflict and confrontation. You have nothing constructive to add (which is apparent) and that's fine. But You strike me as one that would cry on shout when people did not wait for you on hunts.

It's not about I found it first. If it was the case you'd be able to solo it... get off your high horse man. To further that you insult SE's "failed" approach but would rather see the failed idea continue rather than work towards something that could be good for all...

Yeh VERY productive of you...

[Cadmar]

It's not about competition. It's apparent that you just like conflict and confrontation. If you have nothing constructive to add (which is apparent) and that's fine. But You strike me as one that would cry on shout when people did not wait for you on hunts.

So.. I offer you my opinion.. which you asked for. And you respond with insults and accusations about my character? Seems rather uncalled for. That's like me saying that you are full of yourself for having your own quote as your signature.

If you don't want opinions that conflict with your own, then don't ask for "Thoughts?"

[Zedd702]

So.. I offer you my opinion.. which you asked for. And you respond with insults and accusations about my character? Seems rather uncalled for. That's like me saying that you are full of yourself for having your own quote as your signature.

If you don't want opinions that conflict with your own, then don't ask for "Thoughts?"

I quote it for elitists that make everything about raids when dungeons and other content is in discussion. And that would be your opinion of me and I honestly would not care if you said that tbqf.

As for Thoughts. That was asking for input. Rather than insult SE's fail attempts, how about adding how they could better it vs a "no leave as is it's fine" approach? Especially, after you yourself said it's failed.

THAT'S what I am saying.

I did not insult your character, at least that was not my intent. I merely painted a picture of how I personally view you based on your response.

Nice try though...