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  1. #191
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    Thanos's Avatar
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    Thanos Xiv
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    Excalibur
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Haji View Post
    So, if 100 people starts to play the game and manage to level to a point where they can enter the final raid, which only 5 people complete, then what? The 5 people can decide whether or not dungeon is good or bad, and 95 people can take a hike? What if the dungeon is such a hot issue, that 40 of those 100 people leave the game? This is just an example, but it illustrates why all players should be entintled to opinion. FFXIV is commercial enterprise, it needs it players. And this is why they should listen to them instead of "you haven't completed, you don't have the right to say. You gonna leave? fine, leave."

    BTW, I'm not saying I have the right to say whether the dungeons are good or bad (althought from what I heard, the classes are inbalanced), but if someone tried them (not nessecerly completed) then I think he's entitled to his opinion just right.
    opinions are welcomed always, but if 23897489237984 can do it why the hell cant you?! instead of figuring it out how to do it efficiently like everyone else you cry to SE to change it? why would they change something soooo many ppl have no problem with just cause a few are too lazy or stupid to figure it out

    who the hell do you ppl think you are suggesting them to change something that a hell of a lot ppl already figured out?

    honestly i rather these ppl just quit instead of crying each and every time they suck at something.

    and as for the "you haven't completed, you don't have the right to say. You gonna leave? fine, leave."
    its more "if you dont want to put effort into it then gtfo with ur opinions"
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  2. #192
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    Corrderio's Avatar
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    Corrderio Arseid
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    I think his point is valid, but for another reason. Mostly at why can only the sword/bow drop from there when most darkhold weapons can be outdone with HQs of crafted weapons. Just my 2 cents.
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  3. #193
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    bird's Avatar
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    Windup Bird
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    Excalibur
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    I'm not an elitist and i commend the difficulty of this dungeon. It's not like you have to camp 24++ hours for hnms in ffxi. You can enter the dungeon and try again in merely 5 minutes. Practice makes perfect, no? Maybe i just have an awesome shell. No grinding dungeons and no arc only.

    P.s. we're offering services for speed runs if you so desperately need those two pieces of gear.
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  4. #194
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanos View Post
    opinions are welcomed always, but if 23897489237984 can do it why the hell cant you?! instead of figuring it out how to do it efficiently like everyone else you cry to SE to change it? why would they change something soooo many ppl have no problem with just cause a few are too lazy or stupid to figure it out
    The OP (well, I think, it's up to him to say) percives this as a matter of imbalance not difficulty. That's a little diffrent kettle of fish.

    Also, if you look at him alone, then you may be right, but apparently there are quite few people agreeing with him. So, at the very least, it's not a single person, but a segment (small or large, it's hard to say) of the playerbase. Aside from the fact who actually speakes on the forum, on few first pages the OP and "his" crowd seem to get more thumb-ups then those disagreeing with him. That would indicate that it's actually large minority, or even majority that percives the existance of class imbalance. Or bad raid design.

    Also, in the end, it's up to SE to decide whether he's right or not, but they can't do that if he doesn't voice his opinion.
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  5. #195
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    avalonstormm's Avatar
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    Blank Stormm
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I just want to say that if you have ppl that you know that don't have alot of DOW jobs up to add to your mains..group them all up together and do practice runs..until you guys can come up with a way to beat it..there are many strategies that can be found online...you guys can research them and come out with a strategy that will work for your group..I really like YoshiP's approach on their contents so far...it forces players to think outside the box..don't give up..
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  6. #196
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    Birry's Avatar
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    Forsaken Mountain
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Corrderio View Post
    I think his point is valid, but for another reason. Mostly at why can only the sword/bow drop from there when most darkhold weapons can be outdone with HQs of crafted weapons. Just my 2 cents.
    the weapons dropped inside only top the hq1s not all hqs and if u was a glad ur not made to do dmg ur made to be the castle wall to defend the other ppl... the sword dropped inside gives pure defence which any glad would die for.. most of the other weapons is jsut bragging rights really because they not that great
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  7. #197
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haji View Post
    The OP (well, I think, it's up to him to say) percives this as a matter of imbalance not difficulty. That's a little diffrent kettle of fish.

    Also, if you look at him alone, then you may be right, but apparently there are quite few people agreeing with him. So, at the very least, it's not a single person, but a segment (small or large, it's hard to say) of the playerbase. Aside from the fact who actually speakes on the forum, on few first pages the OP and "his" crowd seem to get more thumb-ups then those disagreeing with him. That would indicate that it's actually large minority, or even majority that percives the existance of class imbalance. Or bad raid design.

    Also, in the end, it's up to SE to decide whether he's right or not, but they can't do that if he doesn't voice his opinion.
    I would keep replying but Haji has hit the nail on the head a few time, its just that people are too stubborn to see it in a different perspective. Sry if I pulled the word elitism out of the woodwork but its the word that best describes these A$$holes on here, saying well it can be done gtfo blah blah blah blah, tunnel vision right?
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  8. #198
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    Keftenk's Avatar
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    Keftenk Duras
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    WHY CANT I CRAFT A SWORD THAT I WANT ON MY WEAVER, I SHOULD BE ABLE TO SINCE I LEVELED WEAVER!!! qq
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  9. #199
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    Don Elreed
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    Excalibur
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    Archer Lv 50
    fishing is cool..
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