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    Quote Originally Posted by DividedSky View Post
    Anything to get wolves den up and running again. Remove melee/ranged requirement as well. 2 melee is fine, 2 ranged is fine
    no, it's not fine. you do not want 2 ranged. the moment people start running premade 2 SMNs+SCH+TANK train comps, people will quit WD and be right back in these forums complaining to put the restrictions back. i know because i was doing WD before the restrictions came into place. that comp merks everything and the match wouldn't even last that long.
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    Last edited by Gor; 02-01-2015 at 09:15 AM.

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    Sneak Ers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gor View Post
    no, it's not fine. you do not want 2 ranged. the moment people start running premade 2 SMNs+SCH+TANK train comps, people will quit WD and be right back in these forums complaining to put the restrictions back. i know because i was doing WD before the restrictions came into place. that comp merks everything and the match wouldn't even last that long.
    You don't seem to understand. NO ONE DOES WOLVES DEN AT ALL RIGHT NOW. Smart people will adjust their teams if they want to win. Forcing people to be X job and having to match in rank is stupid in a free for all arena. Its not even ranked. No one ques for it..... they need to remove the restrictions. I'd rather fight a premade and lose than never be able to que... ever.

    And to your... "you do not want 2 ranged" ... imagine a party ... whm pld blm blm..... vs. whm pld nin nin..... both ninjas each get on a blm... blms can't dps at all... the ninja party wins b/c ranged can't do anything b/c they got wrcked by the ninjas. This is pvp... no matter what you say is a problem there is always a solution player creativity is going to trump any type of restriction that a game creator tries to administer. The current restrictions are DETRIMENTAL to wolves den and NEED TO BE REMOVED. There are always arguments as to how/who might win in what setup but there are always acceptions. again.. i'd rather things be not so even with the ques actually popping than things be "even" and "fair" like they have it now and no one does it because it makes ques so god awful for a <5 min fight.

    or how about nin nin nin nin party all invis when they go in... they pop and just WRECK the healers.... then kill dps afterwards.... thats totally legit as well and an easy win w/o any healers.... there are just so many possibilities if you remove the stupid RESTRICTIONS... it would be SO MUCH MORE FUN.
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    Last edited by DividedSky; 02-01-2015 at 09:36 AM.

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    Apparently there are plans to improve Wolve's Den. It just won't happen till after Heavensward is released.

    Q&A at 0:49:50
    Q: Can you tell us about any plans in the future for additions or expansions to the Wolves' Den?
    A: A lot of players are getting involved with Frontline, and even players who previously were not interested in PvP are participating in greater numbers. The current concept of the Wolves' Den is a place for people who want to improve themselves and become even stronger in PvP. We'll be making adjustments to Frontline including the addition of new maps and rules, and we'd like to see more players motivated to get better at PvP. However, if we make adjustments to both Frontline and Wolves' Den at the same time, it would
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