WAR tank pure DPS and no defiance in expert run story.

[Ruddi]

Hey guys.

I just did a expert roulette expert as WAR and landed in The Wanderer's Palace (hard) first of I forgot to put up defiance but I had no problem holding enmity to the BRD at around 115 also a MNK at around same level.

I am WAR 109 with 7 over melded 110 gear/axe focus on parry and critical hit rate. and used Black Truffle Risotto HQ (parry skill 594) (critical hit skill 536)

So when first boss was down I saw I did not have defiance up and was like okay healer had no problem to keep my HP up, I did use damage defensive buff and and increased healing buff.

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[Ruddi]

I said to PT okay I go full STR and we did 3-5 trash mobs still no problem with cures from our good SCH she had 5500HP so I think at around ilvl 115-120 ish.

We did the full rest of run I had around 7500 HP and I did around +40% (I speculate) more damage with DPS buff I could land in 1k damage on storm's path combo or butcher's block combo.

I was kinda surprised on how well this went with a good setup and healer.

Anyone who got a good story as tank?

[Deebs]

There was one run I tried full dps with random roulette and got Snowcloak. No problems throughout the entire run except for the final fight when the healer died on the first howl move, then 1 dps died to the 2nd. . . it was just me and a BLM who brought down Fenrir for the last 40%ish (cant really remember just that it took forever). So intense lol

Usually I do dungeons with my gf healing though and have no issues going full dps. So much fun when fighting bosses and using all dps cooldowns then seeing back to back to back 1k+ damage.

[Ruddi]

There was one run I tried full dps with random roulette and got Snowcloak. No problems throughout the entire run except for the final fight when the healer died on the first howl move, then 1 dps died to the 2nd. . . it was just me and a BLM who brought down Fenrir for the last 40%ish (cant really remember just that it took forever). So intense lol

Usually I do dungeons with my gf healing though and have no issues going full dps. So much fun when fighting bosses and using all dps cooldowns then seeing back to back to back 1k+ damage.

That sounds like allot of fun, I have tried something like that when healer and other DPS hit the ground I as BLM cured the tank up then DPS some then cure up and you know the curing is not good as an BLM we managed to kill the boss and to continue the dungeon after that and the healer and other DPS job was waiting at the line of boss fight to continue fast. This is pretty much the best we can do of that situation

[SirTaint]

Pull size is what matters. If you are pull 6-20 mobs you'll want defiance. If you are doing 3-4 mob pulls defiance won't matter with a competent healer.

For each boss you should be opening with Unchained and Zerk which will lock down hate, then you can defiance off and weave in CDs.

[Synestr]

Pull size is what matters. If you are pull 6-20 mobs you'll want defiance. If you are doing 3-4 mob pulls defiance won't matter with a competent healer.

For each boss you should be opening with Unchained and Zerk which will lock down hate, then you can defiance off and weave in CDs.

That. I have started to do this on bosses. Run in, Unchained, Zerk, smack hard with BB, SE/P, Infuriate > IB then Defiance off. Things go well and are sped up a bit. I am currently working on making myself some new STR acc's to meld. Can only get better, right!?

[SpookyGhost]

If you have a WHM and the mobs you pull can be stunned, after the first stun it's fine to drop Defiance until they start resisting (unless they're nearly dead then you might as well continue OP spam).

Turning off Defiance is a lot tricker than it looks in most cases. If you're costing your healer DPS by making yourself too hard to heal and therefore too hard to multitask, then your increased numbers probably aren't making up for that. You're also giving up your consistent source of mitigation, IB. If you can pull it off and pop your CDs at the right times to make it so you might as well be in Defiance (Vengeance and Thrill + Conv are basically like being in Defiance) then it's a big boon to sit out of Defiance after your Unchained opener. Just don't get too risky or you'll start costing your healers more DPS than you're gaining.

Also if your healer decides they're not going to DPS, then definitely turn off Defiance. :P

[dspguy]

Pull size is what matters.

Small pulls, your healer can keep up. Big pulls, you'll need that heal bonus on your HP.

[Yukariko]

Absolutely think of your healers.