WHM > T13 Questions

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

Phase 3
Evil Eye > Dive Bomb > Megaflare - How do you guys heal this, and is it possible to solo heal until storm? For me, I pop a Cure 3 on myself (which will get everyone except the MT tanking the other add) followed by Medica II. I'm starting to think that I can reverse it back so I can let Medica II tick once more. Eventually, everyone has enough HP to soak the mega (provided no one messes up).

Depending on how much damage the entire group took, you will need to experiment here for a bit. If you're not entirely sure: Make the entire group stack up, pop Divine Seal and Cure III. That should be sufficient. And yes, you can actually solo heal for most of this part of the phase as a white mage. There isn't a lot of damage from the blood, mainly coming from the pain with it's ripper-claw attack. I do recommend having the scholar aid you in healing when the Sins appear.

Bonus: If eyes deal a relatively large amount of damage, have the Scholar DoT up 1 gust and bane off it so both Sins take some additional damage.

2nd Adds - I more or less have this down to a science (Virus first Death Sentence, Stoneskins, Regens, etc.) But I seem to have an issue keeping my OT alive when we're going transitioning into P4. From what I noticed, I'm dodging megaflares while the tank's dragging the mob around. The mob hits for about 1800 and has a swipe for ~2k? A solution I can think of is that I solo heal the last part of the 2nd adds so the SCH can DPS the storm down quicker, and hopefully get the last add down before divebombs?

I personally do not virus the first death sentence. With or without virus, the first one is pretty easy to handle. Instead I virus the pain instead while megaflares go out. Make sure there's a regen up on the OT who has the pain and if possible a stoneskin as well. Otherwise try to save your Swift Cast to cast Cure II on him/her while on the move - If you are in range and the scholar isn't for lustrate.

What does help is to quickly identify whether you have a marked megaflare or not. So pop sprint, move towards the gathering point. If you have the mark go all the way and pre-position there. If you don't stop where you are. Once your movement stops, you have time to heal up the off tank. You won't need swift cast in this case.

Also have a question for Phase 4 - How are double pillars supposed to be handled, if they spawn on the people taking megaflare?

This is a really rare occurrence, so I can't really say with certainty. But I don't think they take damage from the pillar twice.

[Sleigh]

This is a really rare occurrence, so I can't really say with certainty. But I don't think they take damage from the pillar twice.

I've seen it once, and it did detonate twice. Fortunately i130 + a heal after Megaflare = survive with 300 HP.

[PetiteMalFleur]

Bonus: If eyes deal a relatively large amount of damage, have the Scholar DoT up 1 gust and bane off it so both Sins take some additional damage.

This is a good suggestion. However, I couldn't get my group to ever be this coordinated since they just aoe everything. I do have time to put up 3 dots, Bane, Succor, and Adlo the OT (he gets rekt) before evil eye.

[Sumimi]

Depending on how much damage the entire group took, you will need to experiment here for a bit. If you're not entirely sure: Make the entire group stack up, pop Divine Seal and Cure III. That should be sufficient. And yes, you can actually solo heal for most of this part of the phase as a white mage. There isn't a lot of damage from the blood, mainly coming from the pain with it's ripper-claw attack. I do recommend having the scholar aid you in healing when the Sins appear.

Bonus: If eyes deal a relatively large amount of damage, have the Scholar DoT up 1 gust and bane off it so both Sins take some additional damage.

Mm, looking at what we did last night, Evil eye takes us down to 2k/3k. For the most part I medica II > cure 3 this. Divebombs come out soon afterwards and I don't want to risk anyone getting killed to megaflare because they weren't topped off. I might be okay with Medica II > Medica though, I'll try again next week. The i130 weapon is really helping.

The rest of your advice helped us get through to Ahk Morns more consistently. If only my group didn't clip each other to megaflare and dying right before teraflare

Thanks again

[Tranquil]

This is a good suggestion. However, I couldn't get my group to ever be this coordinated since they just aoe everything. I do have time to put up 3 dots, Bane, Succor, and Adlo the OT (he gets rekt) before evil eye.

Just mark one of the Gusts with the "ignore marker #1". People can AOE and wreck shit decently even then and you can leave the ignore marked Gust alive at like 20% until the Sins spawn and then you can just Bane it up. We've been doing what Lyrica said ever since progressing on the turn, as we have a SMN and of course me, as an off-DPSing SCH. You can really feel the DPS difference there because the SMN loses a lot of ramp-up time and can Fester/Ruin spam off the bat with dots ticking. If your group can't hold back even then, well.. If you don't have a SMN the lack of one Bane isn't as noticeable, however. (While still noticeable).

@OP: your SCH should help with the healing of the tank who has the last Pain on them, before Teraflare. The SCH can dot it up when the Pain spawns, then pre-Succor for Megaflare safety netting, dodge the Megaflare Dive, then have the OT targeted and heal them through the damage if the Pain is not dead yet. Your WAR might conserve some CDs here for the upcoming Akh Morn and Ruin spam won't help much with the add, so better heal through the Pain safely.

[AutumnsHollow]

Phase 3
Evil Eye > Dive Bomb > Megaflare - How do you guys heal this, and is it possible to solo heal until storm? For me, I pop a Cure 3 on myself (which will get everyone except the MT tanking the other add) followed by Medica II. I'm starting to think that I can reverse it back so I can let Medica II tick once more. Eventually, everyone has enough HP to soak the mega (provided no one messes up).

I cure three for evil eye, and the scholar uses Eos's regen to top us off while we're dodging divebomb. Yes, it is possible I've managed to do it before.

2nd Adds - I more or less have this down to a science (Virus first Death Sentence, Stoneskins, Regens, etc.) But I seem to have an issue keeping my OT alive when we're going transitioning into P4. From what I noticed, I'm dodging megaflares while the tank's dragging the mob around. The mob hits for about 1800 and has a swipe for ~2k? A solution I can think of is that I solo heal the last part of the 2nd adds so the SCH can DPS the storm down quicker, and hopefully get the last add down before divebombs?

Before we dodge the megflare dive I have stoneskin up on the offtank along with regen. I also virus the pain. I personally only move to dodge the megflare dive, and I can manage a cure two in time before red circles/markers appear. If things get hairy I'll swift cast a cure 2.

My scholar goes into cleric stance as soon as adds appear to get her bane off asap, and then goes back to healing. In situations where my scholar gets obsessed with applying miasma and it keeps missing; presence of mind helped me a lot with solo healing the off tank, and the main tank throughout the phase.

[Sebazy]

I honestly think that the second Pain during the 3rd dive is more dangerous than Twintania and her death sentences. As whm I personally save E4E and virus for the OT with Pain at that point, this gives me more time to worry about dive mishaps and getting the group's health to where it needs to be for Teraflare. The only point where I feel stretched on healing is when the second set of gusts pop on the MT with Twin whilst the blood is likely still on the OT. DS/regen coupled with the tanks using Conv helps immensely there.

[Sumimi]

Just a bit of an update.

I've cleared T13 (as of yesterday), and I'm gonna share the rest of my healing stuffs that might be interesting to note. I beat it at i123, with the i130 weapon.

P1/P2 > P3 - Conserve what you can here and have faith in your SCH. Eos helps with her aoe regen, but don't rely on it. By the time you hit P3, shroud should be up for the 3rd time and will cap your MP with some Mana Song. Mana Song generally might get played for longer for the SCH (who may have used more MP than you), so consider that to be free heals for 1st add phase. I've managed to enter P4 with minimal mana song (1st phase only, then during teraflare) with full MP, Shroud and X-Ether up. Do note that deaths put a huge dent on a healer's MP. Balance raises with your SCH if needed.

P3 Last Dive Bomb - Having a Regen, Eye, and Virus up for the remaining add is enough to keep the tank alive. Making sure he's topped up before Bahamut comes out is a plus but isn't critical. You can dodge the dive bomb, and get one GCD to throw a heal before megaflare comes out. After the 1st megaflare hit, you might be moving so move and keep your eye on the tank's HP and prep swift cast. For me Bene's generally up for this so I'll use it if I have to.

P4 in General - Don't overly conserve, it's better to overheal and keep your party alive then it is to have anyone die this phase. Pace your MP with Bahamut's HP and use shroud/pots as necessary.

P4 Megaflare - This is where learning how to time Medica 2 becomes important. With enough practice in 1 and 2 you'll have this down in no time, getting the Medica 2 to hit (and register) before towers go off. I had one wipe where our bard died because she took 6k from megaflare and the tower blew up.

P4 Earthshakers - Just remember that this isn't P1 Earthshakers, one of the DPS (who might be on your side) will be getting hit with a Twister that hits for 5k. For me, I regen my target, then Cure 2 spam 3 times. It might be too much, but I don't want to risk it. A flame breath still happens after this, so don't instantly heal the twister target when he gets hit with it.

P4 Megaflare/Earthshakers > Gigaflare - This happens twice, and caught us by surprise a few times.

All in all, a challenging and fun fight. I definately would not have improved as quickly if it wasn't for this thread. For that, I thank everyone here who has contributed.

[RachaelMarie22]

^ I want to thank everyone too. With all these tips raid before last we were getting to teraflare every pull (WAR kept dragging pain into the party and cleaving everyone. ..every time... Had a few words now we have a "manoeuvre" technique where he avoids doing this.

Then last night we first stepped into p4 and on that pull got boss down to 4%... then my PLD wanted to go to bed. Come on next raid day...

[AutumnsHollow]

Sumimi beat me by a day , I also beat turn 13. I'd like to thank everyone for their tips and advice. They were very helpful.