Maelstrom PvP premades... nearly impossible? (Queue woes)

[JohnMccain]

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[zeopower6]

Nooo, Barack, nooo!

But it's pretty lame how I rarely ever encounter a Storm premade on Primal. The queue time is so discouraging.

[Lethorian]

I'd imagine it is because of how few groups queue as 8 man premades, thats why you might see a party in an alliance with only 3-4 people in it or holes all over the place throughout, lets say your 8 man is up next but there are a bunch of stragglers in queue in progress they will take priority and jump ahead of you. That will set you back about 15 minutes alone depending on the match and seem faster queueing solo and joining in progress. Add on top of that people queueing in 3-5 groups of people. They might be queued in front of your 8 man, not fit into a match that has just been made, so the game took single queued people, filled them in, while that half party is still ahead of you, now their turn comes up, still not leaving room for your 8 man, and again taking single queues ahead of you. Spread that across the entire data center. I think maelstrom has a higher PvP population right now as well which obiously makes for longer queue times.

[Sen_Terrechant]

I think it has to do more with the way they do the que system.

Its honestly effed and broken. Premades aside how many times have people been qued for PvP for 10+ minutes longer then someone, that got a pop and you didnt.