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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    Little bit off topic. Did Titan HM last nite for the first time. Out of the 2 tanks I had the higher HP about 6700, forget the other though it was in the 5k range. However there was a ninja in there with over 10k, how does that happen?
    130 left side
    130 ride side tank gear
    or lots of pentameld
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    Little bit off topic. Did Titan HM last nite for the first time. Out of the 2 tanks I had the higher HP about 6700, forget the other though it was in the 5k range. However there was a ninja in there with over 10k, how does that happen?
    Ok... it doesn't really make sense when you put a DPS into the story. Ninja have 10k hp because of echo and probably gone into Fcoil or hp food? I don't find it very hard to explain why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueskyy View Post
    ...ignoring the fact that whether i have more hp or not...
    If you are talking about your HP pool with Defiance up, then you're drastically skewed in judging your epeen by this fact alone. Sure, your flaccid size might be bigger, but your erect size might be lacking. By this, I mean that if you have 10k HP with Defiance up and the PLD has 9k, then you actually might not be as well geared, if you're judging by HP pools. Rate by unbuffed HP, not buffed HP, and you'll get a better comparison. This of course changes if you're using STR trinkets instead, as you'll be working with a smaller base HP pool. Soo... yeah... don't act like you're swinging a bigger trouser snake just because your HP is higher while buffed.
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    Last edited by Ceodore; 01-31-2015 at 08:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceodore View Post
    If you are talking about your HP pool with Defiance up.
    No, I've tanked for over a year now and playing end game contents too, I know that comparing hp pool is without Defiance without anyone telling me with something called -Observation-. I uses str trinkets and str attri when I'm farming but all vit when progressing. Soo... yeah... don't act like you're the only one who knows your stuff.
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    As a WAR in CM/Prae I am the MT. I would be probably be the same as PLD but I was with a PLD the other day who had Shield Oath on and he could only pick one off of me in AoE threat. In WoD, ST, and CT I let someone else MT because most of the time it's a battle of ego (not skill, gear, etc.).
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    personally I use no buffs on pulls in 8 man stuff unless its a pre-formed grp and I know im mt.

    if after the first combo im in lead and the boss hasn't flipped to the other tank then ill use cd's and precede as mt, if I lose hate straight away to anything but a provoke ill switch to ot.

    as for ct, ive never tanked it. st tanked lots and I always pull as mt in mind but will switch of if I lose hate easily. wod havnt tanked yet but will probs very soon. but I wil do the same as I do in st, except theres some etiquette on Cerberus that says grp c is mt in the fight unless he is taking a battering...
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    Bit surprised by all the feeling out and testing everyone does. Just talk to the other guy and ask if he wants to main tank or not. Why put more effort into it?
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    If I see one charge in, i give them MT, even if I'm better geared than them. Otherwise, I count to at least 3 or do the initiative like doing the ready check hoping I get the point across.

    Whether MT or OT, it's still tanking.

    My only beef though when doing ST, I sometimes call out a tank switch and see no one Provoke the boss and take the MT spot while my healers are busy reviving the rest of my party.
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    Last edited by rawker; 02-01-2015 at 08:41 PM.

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    In some of these CT/ST/WoD instances, the MT job is the easiest job.

    Handling the other mechanics is usually much more important than spamming enmity combos and being curebombed. Think about CT. I've done it twice since the patch. Tanks don't know what to do with the platinai during bone dragon or iron giants during behemoth. Those are far more important jobs than the MT. Regardless of iLvl, the tanks that know the mechanics should handle them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    In some of these CT/ST/WoD instances, the MT job is the easiest job.
    Absolutely right.
    In most battles throughout the game, the MT job is the easiest job
    OT usually has more nuances to keep track of, even if it's just timing on pulling adds.
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