MT etiquitte?

[Eye_Gore]

As a Warrior i noticed PLD players like to be MT ignoring the fact that whether i have more hp or not.

Little bit off topic. Did Titan HM last nite for the first time. Out of the 2 tanks I had the higher HP about 6700, forget the other though it was in the 5k range. However there was a ninja in there with over 10k, how does that happen?

[Wintersandman]

As a WAR in CM/Prae I am the MT. I would be probably be the same as PLD but I was with a PLD the other day who had Shield Oath on and he could only pick one off of me in AoE threat. In WoD, ST, and CT I let someone else MT because most of the time it's a battle of ego (not skill, gear, etc.).

[aisustrong]

Little bit off topic. Did Titan HM last nite for the first time. Out of the 2 tanks I had the higher HP about 6700, forget the other though it was in the 5k range. However there was a ninja in there with over 10k, how does that happen?

130 left side
130 ride side tank gear
or lots of pentameld

[dspguy]

In a place like ST/CT/WoD, some tanks just call out what role they want. You either call first or take what is left. If no one does anything, I count to 10 and just pull and MT.

When during stuff like Garuda HM for bright lights in DF, you have two tanks. Pretty much if one tank is already in tank stance, I let them tank. Not much to discuss.

The only thing I can think of when all the tanks need to be on the same page is Behemoth in CT. 1 on boss, one on giant, 4 on towers. That's the standard. Usually people call out what they want and other tanks take what is left. With the dawn of WoD and the need to do CT weekly for carboncoat, Behemoth is always a mess since tanks don't know what to do (as well as everyone else).

[Ceodore]

...ignoring the fact that whether i have more hp or not...

If you are talking about your HP pool with Defiance up, then you're drastically skewed in judging your epeen by this fact alone. Sure, your flaccid size might be bigger, but your erect size might be lacking. By this, I mean that if you have 10k HP with Defiance up and the PLD has 9k, then you actually might not be as well geared, if you're judging by HP pools. Rate by unbuffed HP, not buffed HP, and you'll get a better comparison. This of course changes if you're using STR trinkets instead, as you'll be working with a smaller base HP pool. Soo... yeah... don't act like you're swinging a bigger trouser snake just because your HP is higher while buffed.

[chidarake]

personally I use no buffs on pulls in 8 man stuff unless its a pre-formed grp and I know im mt.

if after the first combo im in lead and the boss hasn't flipped to the other tank then ill use cd's and precede as mt, if I lose hate straight away to anything but a provoke ill switch to ot.

as for ct, ive never tanked it. st tanked lots and I always pull as mt in mind but will switch of if I lose hate easily. wod havnt tanked yet but will probs very soon. but I wil do the same as I do in st, except theres some etiquette on Cerberus that says grp c is mt in the fight unless he is taking a battering...

[AniCelestine]

At this point a question regarding provoke:

Enmity/"aggro" is calculated via points, a 500 dmg is essentially 500 enmity. Tank stances add a multiplier to the enmity generated by tank's attacks, and the "increased enmity" bonus on attacks gives another multiplier. That's essentially how it works. So how provokes steps into play is: the person who has most points is the target of the said monster, let's say that person has 10000enmity, if you'd use provoke, essentially what it does is even if you have 0 enmity currently, it gives you 10000enmity+1. So if you start a fight with it, its essentially useless since there is no-one with enmity on the boss, so you'd only get +1 enmity on it, which can be taken over by any other use o's skill (note: activatimg buffs I.E Raging Strikes, Presence of Mind, Fight or Flight, Berserk all gives some number of enmity, so if tank has only run aggroed a boss, if you pop a buff you'll get the highest enmity on the boss (if you're close enough for the boss so get add on your list of enemies currently in a fight with you)

If there's anything wrong in there, someone do corret me

[Blueskyy]

If you are talking about your HP pool with Defiance up.

No, I've tanked for over a year now and playing end game contents too, I know that comparing hp pool is without Defiance without anyone telling me with something called -Observation-. I uses str trinkets and str attri when I'm farming but all vit when progressing. Soo... yeah... don't act like you're the only one who knows your stuff.

[Blueskyy]

Little bit off topic. Did Titan HM last nite for the first time. Out of the 2 tanks I had the higher HP about 6700, forget the other though it was in the 5k range. However there was a ninja in there with over 10k, how does that happen?

Ok... it doesn't really make sense when you put a DPS into the story. Ninja have 10k hp because of echo and probably gone into Fcoil or hp food? I don't find it very hard to explain why.

[Galgarion]

Bit surprised by all the feeling out and testing everyone does. Just talk to the other guy and ask if he wants to main tank or not. Why put more effort into it?