Quote Originally Posted by Jennestia View Post
No class is unique, no class brings anything to a party (recent healing changes somewhat changes this, but all frontline are still exactly the same with a different weapon graphic.)

Nothing works well in FFXIV, which is why they're introducing the job system. They wouldn't be adding the job system if they decided the class system is absolutely perfect.
I guess I never thought it was 'perfect'.

So it's mostly about the paradigm of the party system then? Trying to establish 'the holy trinity and friends' so the people that form parties can decide who to take and who to not take with them in any situation based on their job name? I thought it 'might' be mostly about that, but I didn't want to make any assumptions.

I guess on the one hand, it would have been nice if 'the world' (that our characters live in) wasn't put together in such a way that lends itself the system, rather than abandoning a more organic progression in favor of the old paradigm of needing a tank, and a healer, and some dps people, to make a party.

It just seems like the holy trinity strangles creativity when it comes to bringing a character into a virtual world, then deciding what you want to become. I've also been playing a bit of Rift lately, and that was supposed to be this amazing thing where you have this 1-of-4 base class, and then you can mix together all this wonderful stuff and be whatever you want. But at the end of the day, the complaints are the same thing as in any MMO: Where are the tanks and healers?

It would be nice to go to a dungeon with 5 people, and across the 5 people, there was enough of what you needed to do to overcome the situation.

But at least I understand it 'seems' like it's mostly about the trinity, and getting some clear cut labels on people to make it easier for the Type A leaders to decide whether you will be useful to their group or not.

That sounds fun, for people who really need that to hang on to. I hope they, as they say, also keep the base class concepts around that they have now, where you pick up 'cards' that you learn from various classes and put your deck together and then go out in the world as your base class (depending on your tool) and your deck of cards. That seems new and interesting and different to me still

Thank you for responding! Many of my questions get buried, probably because they aren't very good questions, but often times I get curious as to why people are fighting about things I don't really understand.