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  1. #91
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    Elgeron's Avatar
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    English is not my first language, but I love to dead the localization of the game. It really give it an unique feel. I love to speak with different NPC and being able to guess where they come from for the way the speak, and the convergence of dialects is quite entertaining. The way it is written is also kind of beautiful itself, how they play with words, that goes from making modern references with a very funny spin to almost poetic dialogue, straigh out from a play.

    I cannot only but disagree. The translation is unique, well though out, surprisingly faithful to the source materia and perfect for a fantasy setting like Eorzea.
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiroh View Post
    That's really not at all what it is. These dialects were specifically chosen, especially for Ramuh and Midgardsormr and the like in particular, because these beings are thousands of years old if not older. Speaking in modern parlance for them would be far more out of character for ancient beings than speaking with a dialect you or the OP doesn't like.
    I stated before, but every critique i have of the game's localization decision absolutely does not apply to Midgardsormr, the Primals (including Hydaelyn), and (to a lesser extent) Urianger and Yugiri. These characters use older dialects/speech patterns in Japanese, and thus are being translated/localized correctly and consistently
    The REST of the scions, leaders, and regular NPCs though, speak standard Japanese. Thus, my criticism is that the words they, not Midgardsormr, not the Primals, and not any other "ancient beings" speak is incredibly outdated and jarring. In addition, at least one instance of dialogue you, the player get to choose from uses vocabulary and grammar that runs counter to what the player likely uses.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elgeron View Post
    The translation is unique, well though out, surprisingly faithful to the source materia and perfect for a fantasy setting like Eorzea.
    Unfortunately, as I reference above, with the exception of Midgardsormr and other ancients, the game's translation is actually NOT faithful to the "source material" since there is no source material as the two localizations are worked on concurrently. Ideas come from the Japanese side first usually, but as everything is released simultaneously, it can't really be argued to call it the "source material."
    And if you're referring to other FF games, again this style of translation is actually quite new, beginning with the more recent remakes of the like of FF4, FFT: War of the Lions, and the later Dragon Quest games and remakes. Bravely Default was especially awkward in this way.
    Mixing pop culture references with grammar structures not used since the time of the pop culture reference's creator's great great great great great great grandparents is jarring to say the least.
    It tries to be poetic, and succeeds in areas where being poetic is warranted, such as again, the primals and midgardsormr. But when a game has characters using grammar and spelling Ben Franklin would raise an eyebrow at in a game with a quest called "Pirates versus Ninjas," there's a certain disconnect going on.
    Again, don't get me wrong, there ARE areas where the flowery speech is perfectly fine, but they seem to be applying it with a roller rather than a paintbrush.
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  3. #93
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZanzhizExaverion View Post
    Fix'd for OP's convenience.
    I dunno, after Pi's post, my brain likes to imagine that Ramuh talks and sounds like Mr. T.
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  4. #94
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    But at this point wouldn't it be jarring to change the style of the writting? It would be too inconsistent.

    The thing with the detachetment of the characters is kind of subjective. I found myself caring for the characters of this MMORPG much more, than say, Guild Wars 2, game that I like but just didn't reached me in the same emotional level. I would also like to mention games like Shadow of the Colossus and ICO, both in wich character use a totally made up language, yet are most known as being very emotional. Of course the way they tell their stories is not the same as FF XIV, but what they coincide is that the main character remains an effective tool for immersion.

    The language isn't that hard anyways. For the most part it sin't really anytrhing too hard to understand, I would say though that it is pretty noticeable in the first part of the storyline, which had to be rushed to hell to release as soon as possible, so the weird and strange wording there is understandable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZanzhizExaverion View Post
    Fix'd for OP's convenience.

    HHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I spilled my drink
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    I find no real fault with middle english being used for ancient beings or the limsan accent, it adds more depth to the characters rather than having them speak in just plain modern english.

    Played DA:I recently and while I really enjoy the accents and Morrigan using dashes of middle english, it really threw me out of immersion when I heard Blackwall and Dorian use modern curse words.

    As for Urianger SPOILERS

    End of 2.55 story suggests that he isn't quite what he seems to be
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    Last edited by Gralna; 04-02-2015 at 11:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekujin View Post
    Stop using "Thy" and "Thou" ...
    Speaks excellent English.

    Doesn't understand the word "portend."

    Thinks that Shakespearean English is "ye olde English."

    ^ I don't think all of these can be true at the same time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 314159265358979323846264338327 View Post
    Oh boy, I can't wait for the update where Ramuh drops out of the sky like "sup dawg, we gon fight up in dis tree to see who da most swoll in da woods".
    HA! Can you just imagine if they did something like this? It would be extremely comical, but definitely not in tone with this game or the characters. Koji would have blast using slang translation like this and I'm sure the entire North American SE team would get a kick out of this!

    Personally, I think the translations work beautifully. Nothing should be changed. Just my 2 cents.
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    this somehow felt like it was appropriated >_>
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    Maybe this can help some of those struggling with English http://webm.land/media/gfdW.webm
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