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    Ecks007's Avatar
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    Ecks Grimoirath
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    If I hear "must needs" in 3.0, I swear I am going to burn down Coerthas.

    DO YOU HEAR ME, KOJI?
    Well I guess according to you, Coerthas is burning down, because you're still going to see and hear 'must needs' quite a bit since it's the way people speak in Eorzea. Get the hell over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    If I hear "must needs" in 3.0, I swear I am going to burn down Coerthas.

    DO YOU HEAR ME, KOJI?
    Since ARR launch, I've assumed that they're doing it just to screw with you.

    Not with me, because I find it funny that people don't like a perfectly valid English phrase. But with you, and people like you, who don't like or understand the phrase.

    And I find it hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    Since ARR launch, I've assumed that they're doing it just to screw with you.

    Not with me, because I find it funny that people don't like a perfectly valid English phrase. But with you, and people like you, who don't like or understand the phrase.

    And I find it hilarious.
    "Must needs" is used liberally in the ARR dialogue to the point of grating my eyeballs every time I see it.

    You don't have to agree with me, but I appreciate someone stepped up to the plate to be the condescending jackass in an English thread. I can only regret being too late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Almalexia View Post
    If I hear "must needs" in 3.0, I swear I am going to burn down Coerthas.
    That seems a strange one to be bothered by. I can understand people who learned English as a foreign language being annoyed by uncommon words they wouldn't have learned in a typical ESL course, but "must needs" are two words that are both very common in modern English and are both used with their standard modern meaning. I can't see how that could create any difficulty in understanding. The redundancy of the phrase has fallen out of common usage, but that just helps to give it a little flavor.
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    Before 2.55 I was like "If I see the phrase "to rise to the chorus" one more time" and sure enough, there it was. Thanks Ysayle.
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    If I'm honest a fair few of the complaints here simply amount to people with a lacking vocabulary being upset at having to learn a new word...

    The Limsan dialect is portrayed as an accent. The text you get isn't the actual words they're saying but the WAY they're saying them. If you read aloud some of the things the Limsans say you'll realise it's just an accented version of normal speech (with a few local words thrown in).

    These things give the cast character and the locales culture. Without all of the differing speech patterns the world would feel far less diverse. If that requires a few people to learn a few new words then it's a win/win scenario as far as I'm concerned.
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    Agree with OP, its annoying. A few characters here and there like the primals or even some of the beast races? The Slyphs are great, for example.

    ... but there is no reason why every single character needs to speak like some overzealous renfest nerd. Furthermore, can we give them more character? Elezen, French? La Noscea>English/Scottish with a lite pirate-ish twist? I dont think an Arabic accent would work with Uldans, at least not a heavy one, but anything would be better.

    They must needs change it! <== see? Annoying. Bad VO is pretty common in games and can be remedied here with the different languages but that just makes the text that much more aggravating. This isnt a Shakespeare novel! There is a reason why middle-age themed, high fantasy books and movies/shows like LotR and Game of Thrones avoid or minimize it as much as possible. Its distracting to the audience, taking away from the experience. Can you imagine a Game of Thrones where Tyrion keeps putting in a "must needs" (yes its that annoying) every time he suggest someone "must" or "needs" to do something? No amount of blood or boobies would save it from being canceled.
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    Naria Starcatcher
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    Er, because it is localization and not translation?

    Forgive me if I'm not sorry that the OP actually had to expand his vocabulary.

    Edit: reply to below, since the localization is one of the things I enjoy most in this game (and I downloaded a dictionary specifically for the rogue's cant) it is definitely not keeping me from enjoying the game's dialogue and plot. Right now, the game's plot is doing a better job at keeping me from enjoying the plot.
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    Last edited by Naria; 04-03-2015 at 06:12 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Elinchayilani N'jala
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naria View Post
    Er, because it is localization and not translation?

    Forgive me if I'm not sorry that the OP actually had to expand his vocabulary.
    At the cost of enjoying the games dialogue and plot?
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