Petition to change "A Tankless Job" Achievment Chain

[Grimmel]

While I applaud Square for giving tanks mounts for their hard work, the way these achievements/mounts are orchestrated is all wrong.

Tanks are still scarce when joining Duty Finder for Dungeons or doing runs to complete a relic (Chim, Hydra, and HM Primals). It can still take over 30 mins for a tank to show up and for you to be able to commence the duty.

When I heard way back that tanks would finally be getting mounts for working hard to do what they do best; I thought it'd be a tad bit better than the system we have now.

I know this has been out for some time and there have been countless threads in the past asking for change, but I'm hoping something changes or is done differently when Dark Knight gets introduced and possibly receives a similar type of achievement chain.

Small Edit; I put into bold what the Achievements should count towards.

Having these achievements only count towards end game doesn't help boost the tank population at all, all it does is reward existing tanks with end game FC's and statics. If the achievements were to change to include all dungeons and raids then more people would pick up the sword and shield or Axe and try to learn the job.

[Eye_Gore]

So what is the change you want to see?

[TheBigEvil]

I suggest that they make it retroactive like they did for frontlines... To me I think its kinda BS that they wanted to give something to motivate tanks but then we got to work for it.. yea we get better queue times but that doesnt alway mean good groups...

[Ophie-Mio]

I always found the fact that WHM and the tanks got special mounts kinda...I dunno, a bit favoritism to me. Especially because the whm one is given to you at 30 and the tank ones are given past 50.

I wish the other jobs had job-specific mounts. Why give Tanks incentives such as special mounts? To have them in a queue? Trust me, it doesn't make the queue any nicer. All jobs should get it.

[Grimmel]

So what is the change you want to see?

It kind of says it in there in the second line. :\ To broaden it to four man dungeons and the first few raids for relic.

[Zfz]

I don't think temporary shifts in job population resulting from a reward will solve anything. What really needs to be done is to design the Dark Knight to have a play style that attracts people who otherwise don't feel like playing the Paladin and the Warrior. We need to shift population permanently into the tank queue by attracting people to play the Dark Knight as their main job.

There's little we can do about the fear that some players feel towards taking up a tank job, but job design is something over which SE has full control.

[HaelseMikiro]

with the addition of job quests and new traits/skills from leveling to 60, I'm hoping/expecting to see changes to WAR/PLD that make them more fun and desirable to play

[Deathscythe343]

I actually agree with this and I rarely play my PLD. It always seemed odd that the only way to get the mount was by doing extremes or coil.

[kyuven]

I always found the fact that WHM and the tanks got special mounts kinda...I dunno, a bit favoritism to me. Especially because the whm one is given to you at 30 and the tank ones are given past 50.

This seemed a bit perplexing to me too. I think it might be a consequence of WHMs not really gaining any new mechanics when slapping on their soul crystal.
BRD gets songs
WAR gets defiance
PLD gets the oaths
SMN and SCH get the pets
NIN gets ninjutsu
DRG gets jumps
BLM gets their walls

WHM, and MNK are the only ones that don't seem to have some sort of mechanic specific to their job, instead just getting different or enhanced versions of spells they already have (even Regen is technically just a single target version of Medica II, which all CNJs get). Hell, WHM doesn't even have as many worthwhile crossclass skills either, with only 7 total and only 3 of real, regular use.
So even though it REALLY didn't turn out that way, there was a likely a concern at some point that WHM was "unremarkable" compared to other jobs. This is, of course, not true...but the mount was already made so yeah.

[PArcher]

Dark Knight will be underplayed and PLD and WAR will continue to have lesser numbers of players. Tanking requires taking responsibility, and the vast majority of people dont like that.

No matter how fun tanking becomes, people just wont do it.