In-Game Parser.

[Slappah]

oh I agree with you, I do. the logic behind not having an official one is flawed but like it or not it's their game and their rules so we have to convince them.

How's a thread with around 10 thousand views, and over 200 replies, with majority of everyone here agreeing that parsers should be in game for convincing?

[Wildsprite]

How's a thread with around 10 thousand views, and over 200 replies, with majority of everyone here agreeing that parsers should be in game for convincing?

that wont convince them that the good will outweigh the bad, that is what they need to be convinced of.

they already know that quite a lot of people want an official parser. they have gone as far as to say they know people are using them but not to mention that they are using them within the game or in the forums. my guess is their "don't mention the use of them" is in hopes that it will stifle some of the bad behavior

[Nominous]

that wont convince them that the good will outweigh the bad, that is what they need to be convinced of. they already know that quite a lot of people want an official parser.

They already know the good outweighs the bad. If they're worth their salt as developers, they already know how useful that information can be. They have a battle log, so that's (some) proof of that. They (inevitably) see when the world first clear videos blatantly showcase a HUGE parser on the screen.

Having a parser helped people realize that MNK was a high outlier of DPS for some time. It helped people realize that the gap between DRG damage floors and ceilings were insanely large, and that there were buffs that needed to bring them more inline with MNK and NIN. When the community knows more about the game, it helps them make more informed assessments about balance. This goes right back to the developers, and in turn makes the game even better when everyone's happy that their Job performs on viable, or comparable levels to others. You can't just assume that balance is okay. You can't assume that your party is doing fine with damage, and then realize at 13 minutes, 1 minute before enrage, that you could have all been using poison pots and won instead of losing. You can strive, and work at becoming better with a parser. You can only hope that you're doing better without one.

There's so much good that parsers bring to the game, and there's only one negative side effect, that is already happening, and happens on much worse levels. Hunts are toxic as all hell, literally will get you blacklisted, and brings out the WORST in people. Hey, that content is fine, though. PF requirements might as well be a pre-party screening for DPS potential. It systematically allows players to alienate others by perceived damage output (with iLvl requirements), or flat out Job discrimination. The argument they use against parsers in game hardly makes sense, when you consider things like this.

[Nel_Celestine]

How's a thread with around 10 thousand views, and over 200 replies, with majority of everyone here agreeing that parsers should be in game for convincing?

From observation in this topic alone, it's most likely because the other side is tired of hearing the counter argument of "if you don't want parsers you must be trying to hide your sucking" or some variation of that degree. Personally, I'm against anything other than a personal check dummy because regardless of what the pro-use community might think that "the abuse won't get worse" from it. It will.