In-Game Parser.

[abzoluut]

The reason why parsing will always lead to negativity is due to elitist needing to one up one another and quite frankly I'm tired of it. Elitism is the terrible mindset "I'm better than you due to my numbers being higher and my gear being better."

Quite the mindset when you think a parser will always lead to negativity.

There also is a large group, who aren't elitists, who enjoy the game by theorycrafting, looking for optimal situations, even min-maxing. It contradicts when they want us to figure out stuff, but don't give us the tools don't you think?

When you say that "there are people in this game who play to have fun", you implicitly imply that another approach isn't fun. It might not be for you, but for others it is. The other approach might tell you they don't think it's fun when they have to carry you through encounters for example. The fact that you think people "need" this to know how to play the game can be looked at from a different angle: maybe you (you in general) don't know how to play this game "rotation" wise (enmity/dps/healing) and a parser could help you.

There are two groups and both groups have their rotten apples. People who would abuse a parser and those who don't want it because they like being lazy. Let's not forget we can choose who we play with and there are enough people playing this game to find like minded people to play with.

[Felessan]

i think what he mean is Tank and healer get call out for doing bad job and why DPS jobs is carefree.

Even for healers/tanks the only metric we have now is whether someone died or not and whether tank can hold agro or not. Like DPS can do at least some damage and dodge mechanics or not. But we don't get specifics.
Parsers on other hand will not affect only dps - good one allows to track HPS and overheal% as well as damage taken and tank cooldowns, so there will be additional info for insults even for non-dps classes.

I dont understand why we dont have a built in parser already. How are we supposed to improve if we dont know we suck?

You don't need a parser to have a good performance. Anyone can go to forum, read about proper rotation and train themselves on a dummy to automation of perfect execution. For most people who are underperforming the main problem lies in not that they don't see numbers, but that they are ignorant to the proper handling of their class and no parser will fix this.
The only thing where parser is required when you want to achieve extreme results, but this can be done via teamwork with some PC friends and a whole another level of dedication.

if I'm allowed to kick healers who can't keep people alive through reasonable damage, why should I not be allowed to kick a dps who can't attack his way out of a wet paper bag with a hand grenade?

I am against kicking anyone, be it dps, healer or tank in DF parties. DF is for helping people, many got their bonuses from that. PF is a different story and no one is safe there, dps can be kicked as fast as healer/tank if leader think they are underperforming.

[Kiara1]

You don't need a parser to have a good performance. Anyone can go to forum, read about proper rotation and train themselves on a dummy to automation of perfect execution. For most people who are underperforming the main problem lies in not that they don't see numbers, but that they are ignorant to the proper handling of their class and no parser will fix this.
The only thing where parser is required when you want to achieve extreme results, but this can be done via teamwork with some PC friends and a whole another level of dedication.

1. People wouldn't have figured out the perfect rotation without parsers to begin with.
2. Isn't it a bit weird that we need to look up how to perform well on the internet instead of learning using an in game tool.

[CGMidlander]

1. People wouldn't have figured out the perfect rotation without parsers to begin with.
2. Isn't it a bit weird that we need to look up how to perform well on the internet instead of learning using an in game tool.

Not weird at all. Optimal gaming strategies in every genre have oft utilized outside methods to analyse and refine playstyles.

Savestates and hex viewers for speedruns, calculators of various sorts...etc.

[Kiara1]

Not weird at all. Optimal gaming strategies in every genre have oft utilized outside methods to analyse and refine playstyles.

Savestates and hex viewers for speedruns, calculators of various sorts...etc.

But where's the fun in that?
I mean if we had an ingame tool like a parser, everyone could use that instead to learn how to perfom well.

Whats the point of looking up something someone else has figured out. Isn't it part of the game experience to learn and figure out stuff on your own?

[Viridiana]

I am against kicking anyone, be it dps, healer or tank in DF parties. DF is for helping people, many got their bonuses from that. PF is a different story and no one is safe there, dps can be kicked as fast as healer/tank if leader think they are underperforming.

I'm against it as a first resort, except in the case of trolls. Unfortunately, sometimes it's necessary, and I say that having been on the receiving end of a completely justified kick.

[Felessan]

1. People wouldn't have figured out the perfect rotation without parsers to begin with.

A very good rotation can be obtained even without parsers at all purely on theorycraft basis of calculation of potencies etc, it's how most of work done before finetuning of minor details with parsers.

2. Isn't it a bit weird that we need to look up how to perform well on the internet instead of learning using an in game tool.

Most people are not capable of inventing a good rotation themselves, so they still will need some outside source for that.

But where's the fun in that?
I mean if we had an ingame tool like a parser, everyone could use that instead to learn how to perfom well.

You can't learn just by looking at numbers. You need to really look deep inside of your abilities and think deeply about a proper way to use them. You can do this part without parsers, just not many bother themselves. You can (if you know corresponding class) easily spot those 1-2-3 crowd that don't bother with maintaining debuffs and dots or have holes in rotation.