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    The bigger question should be why everyone wants a parser so badly in the first place. This game is simple enough; anyone that lacks DPS either needs to pump out the deeps more, die less, get better gear, or start melding materia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilesSaintboroguh View Post
    The bigger question should be why everyone wants a parser so badly in the first place. This game is simple enough; anyone that lacks DPS either needs to pump out the deeps more, die less, get better gear, or start melding materia.
    Bad Rotations and habits can be reflected by a parser when compared to someone's numbers.

    On another note, I never entirely understood the harassment claim on parsers being available to everyone. If that already exists at current, with those who have access to it harassing others (not everyone uses parsers for this purpose), why would giving everyone parsers hurt?

    If people can see their own numbers and compare it to others no one else would have to tell them they are low, they would see it themselves. This may incline people to seek guidance to improve themselves. If people were to then harass them all the same, mind you most likely in content that REQUIRES high DPS like the end game raids, why would someone feel bad about being called out on their low dps when, they can see for themselves they are indeed low?

    If this then created a hostile environment to that person and they were forced out of it, the only solution becomes get help or don't participate in end-game.

    Now consider this same situation with no official parser in the mix. You quite literally have the same exact situation. Those who already cant hold their weight are either called out, and don't seek help cause they just tend to file it under (harassment) or they tend to be carried by several high end players to pick up their slack, which now your end game community suffers for it cause they have to deal with these people mixing in.

    Parsers FORCE people to get better. If people choose to rebel against that but still want to participate in end-game, where parsers are really used, then the problem isn't the parser, the problem is you the player.

    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    A parser would make people far more aware of the imbalance we face at the moment (melee destryoing casters in general) and of course make people more aware of their own DPS which could lead to more cry threads. I think this is the bigger reason they don't want it.
    Probably true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Bad Rotations and habits can be reflected by a parser when compared to someone's numbers.

    On another note, I never entirely understood the harassment claim on parsers being available to everyone. If that already exists at current, with those who have access to hit harassing others (not everyone uses parsers for this purpose), why would giving everyone parsers hurt?
    What is currently a small problem would become a big problem if opened up and specifically sanctioned by SE through party wide parsers being endorsed and/or offered by SE themselves. It remains small problem right now due to people being very cautious on their use of party wide parsers in this game, most people who do use one not being willing to admit to using them due to it being a perceived grey area within the rules/guidelines.

    Personal parser in the way of a SE created target dummy DPS checker would not be as open to abuse as a party wide variation, it is one thing to keep failing at something and then deciding to find out if you are part of the problem via a personal DPS parse on a target dummy compared to everyone seeing your DPS or being told by someone using a DPS wide party parser then being singled out and targeted for harassment and abuse in that trial or raid.

    I am all for personal use DPS check target dummy for example but highly against a party wide SE sanctioned parser. One is more susceptible to abuse and misuse while the other is not. It should remain optional feature and not a mandatory one due to high very tiny amount of content in this game that even needs such high DPS checks alongside most content in this game not requiring such a feature at all...so making it a mandatory feature is ridiculous and naive.
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    Snugglebutt if I could hit the Like button 100 more times, I'd do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    Rather play a game where the developers allow players to enjoy the game how they wish to do so within some basic guidelines such as rules to stop harassment, cheating and such than play one that follows your tyrannical dictatorship stepping on anyone who plays differently to yourself and forcing them into a single play style, your desired play style via mandatory DPS checks on everyone, even those who do not care for the small amount of content in this game that would even require such DPS checks.
    Your comment doesn't really make sense and you explain why yourself.

    Why would you use a parser, if it wasn't for the content that makes them viable, IE: Raids? Rarely do people use parsers in content not raid related AND harass people. Are we gonna harass people in Hunts or Snowcloak?

    It makes absolutely no sense to be offended by someone saying you have low DPS, when you're participating in content that may require high DPS. You can play the game how you want 100%. Not everyone should be forced to accept how sloppy you play either especially in end-game content. Once you venture into this content, your goal is to clear it and you cannot do that unless you conquer the DPS checks which are yes, high.

    A personal parser, gives you almost nothing though in that enviorment. In fact the information it would give you, would be terribly misleading and skewed as a dummy, does not enforce mechanics or movement. Thus it gives you numbers that are higher then in the actual fights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Havenchild View Post
    Your comment doesn't really make sense and you explain why yourself.
    My comment makes perfect sense in the context of what was being talked about. That context is in the optional vs mandatory use of such a feature forced upon the player base.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snugglebutt View Post
    My comment makes perfect sense in the context of what was being talked about. That context is in the optional vs mandatory use of such a feature forced upon the player base.
    Again, where are parsers used generally? It's more then likely, if not always, the raiding environment. Which makes your comment nonsense when talking about the context of optional vs mandatory. If you are embarking on content that requires high DPS then a parser is your friend not your enemy, unless you are holding everyone back.

    Let's go with optional. No one uses a parser. Good luck clearing a lot of the end-game content. Why? Because if there are people slacking, you can't tell who it is.
    Mandatory? We now know who it is.

    Who the hell parses hunts /dungeons and harasses people? While yes it's possible that's hardly the environment it occurs in.
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