In-Game Parser.

[Ellatrix]

I stopped reading after this. How about the rest of you?

Yea I did too because it means the rest of the post is probably correct and on point.

[Snugglebutt]

Yea I did too because it means the rest of the post is probably correct and on point.

Most of the content in this game does not require BiS, does not require perfect rotations and does not require anything more than generic levels of DPS. It only really comes into play during some EX trials and some higher end raids where DPS checks plays bigger part. Now maybe because you live in that bubble of farming such EX and raid content that you have become blind to the what is outside that bubble but if they add a personal DPS checking target dummy (which only that player can see their DPS and of which cannot see anyone else's to avoid much of the harassment that goes with party wide parsers) it should be OPTIONAL and not mandatory to use that feature.

[Ellatrix]

Most of the content in this game does not require BiS, does not require perfect rotations and does not require anything more than generic levels of DPS. It only really comes into play during some EX trials and some higher end raids where DPS checks plays bigger part. Now maybe because you live in that bubble of farming such EX and raid content that you have become blind to the what is outside that bubble but if they add a personal DPS checking target dummy (which only that player can see their DPS and of which cannot see anyone else's to avoid much of the harassment that goes with party wide parsers) it should be OPTIONAL and not mandatory.

Yes, let's embrace mediocrity. Excellence is a sin!

[Snugglebutt]

Yes, let's embrace mediocrity. Excellence is a sin!

Rather play a game where the developers allow players to enjoy the game how they wish to do so within some basic guidelines such as rules to stop harassment, cheating and such than play one that follows your tyrannical dictatorship stepping on anyone who plays differently to yourself and forcing them into a single play style, your desired play style via mandatory DPS checks on everyone, even those who do not care for the small amount of content in this game that would even require such DPS checks.

Thank god your not in charge of design decisions in this game. If you were in charge of design decisions for this game, it would crash and die off much like Wildstar. The hardcore raiders like yourself are a microscopic fraction of this player base and as such the amount of content for that minority is also smaller, to try and enforce your hardcore and extreme views onto everyone else would be the death of this game as it has been with other MMO's.

If a DPS check target dummy was put into the game in which can only see your own DPS to avoid harassment it should be optional and not mandatory, the amount of content that would even come close to requiring use of such in a mandatory way is very tiny comparatively to the amount of content in this game in general and the fraction of the player base who hold hardcore and extreme views similar to your own being also very tiny minority of the overall player base.

Forcing mandatory use by the tiny minority onto the majority of players is not the best way forward, forcing the use because of the tiny amount of content that would make use of it is also not the right way to do things compared to the majority of content which is does not. If you cannot see that then I advise you broaden your mind and come out of your bubble.

[Anatha]

Yes, let's embrace mediocrity. Excellence is a sin!

That's reality though. You don't need to be perfect to progress, not as it pertains to personal DPS at any rate. So the argument that parsing should be mandatory for dps(and let's be honest, it isn't mandatory to parse in order to be great as a DD), is already flawed because it's not necessary.

If it's completely arbitrary, it's certainly not necessary, and should never become mandatory.

The point being made is "It should be completely optional, only available outside of encounters, and a completely solo affair".

You can't complain about that. You get what you want, and only people who wish to be parsed will be parsed.

You all may not be self aware, but it appears this game's director knows exactly the kind of people some of you are. Which is why the only possibility he left open was what has been outlined already, a personal parsing dummy.

After all, if what you're REALLY concerned about is being excellent, you have absolutely no need to parse others.
But again, let's be honest, that's not what you want it for.

You'd honestly think no one cleared anything prior to illegal parsers being used, but they did. They most certainly did.

[Ellatrix]

ignorance is bliss

Having damage parsed (perhaps by someone else) is mandatory to be a top dps - because if you don't, you have no way of telling how good you're doing. There are zero top tier dps who have not benefited from a parser. Also no, parsers have been available from pretty much game launch, and most certainly before groups were clearing T4, which had the first real dps check.

Yoshi-P does know his audience, and he knows there are plenty of crybabies who would be pretty upset when they find out that they are, in fact, bad at their job and would be getting kicked for now obviously holding a group back. And instead of getting better, they would just quit the game and go play something more friendly, like Farmville. Though I think the devs were surprised to learn how bad some players are, given how hard they had to nerf SCoB.

[Hayward]

Yoshi-P does know his audience, and he knows there are plenty of crybabies who would be pretty upset when they find out that they are, in fact, bad at their job and would be getting kicked for now obviously holding a group back. And instead of getting better, they would just quit the game and go play something more friendly, like Farmville. Though I think the devs were surprised to learn how bad some players are, given how hard they had to nerf SCoB.

This quote alone makes the case against party-wide parsers. We know good and well people like you will litter the elitist forums with the parses of players you and your kind deem "subpar" (You guys did it in FFXI. What makes you think you won't do any different here?).

[Kazumac]

This quote alone makes the case against party-wide parsers. We know good and well people like you will litter the elitist forums with the parses of players you and your kind deem "subpar" (You guys did it in FFXI. What makes you think you won't do any different here?).

I believe calling people out by name is not allowed on these forums. So that would stop people from naming and shaming. Likewise in game it could be construed as harrassment if done as a naming and shaming attempt.

[Dwill]

This quote alone makes the case against party-wide parsers. We know good and well people like you will litter the elitist forums with the parses of players you and your kind deem "subpar" (You guys did it in FFXI. What makes you think you won't do any different here?).

That's fear-mongering at its finest. In 6 years of FFXI, I can count on one hand the amount of time it happened and when it did, it was because the person was bringing down the group to a degree where going with one less was an improvement. Parsing is already widespread in this game anyway that chances are much more likely that any content you do with a group of people, someone in said group is already parsing. Most people against parsers are people who are mostly ignorant to how they really work, willingly know they aren't performing even decently or the I play how I want even if that means bringing the group down mentality which in itself is a pretty selfish thing to do.

I do find games without them to have a much more uninformed player base though and that is something I do not like (purely because they lack the tools to be informed).

Extremely true. A lot of players in this game could easily get better if the anti-parsing crowd would stop spreading ignorance and fear mongering.

[Konata]

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Let play this from a non end game raider point of view that just want to play this game for fun non push them self to see Turn 13 but want to clear the turns in a casual way when he want now if they added the parser in to the game and new / casual player does not use it on a everyday basis he might not know what there dps is and i know this from experience on world of Warcraft when people started using dps add-ons and asking player what there dps was when they joined a party jut to get kicked out for not knowing which in the elitist jerk pov was not worth taking as they might slow them down this one thing i don't want players to experience just because people don't care about thing as little as what dps the splashing out does not mean there not a good player and i know this will happen in this game