T13 adds

[SirTaint]

I don't like blowing unchained on the add, since it dies so quickly and time for it is lost walking back to bahamut :/

Its safer and better then defiance only. The second it wears off you'll be dropping defiance anyways.

[SpookyGhost]

Yeah, Unchained on the add is really only to build the 5 stacks to use IB on the boss without having to suffer the Defiance penalty while tanking the add. IB + Veng/Thrill + Conv for every add is the safer option if you don't trust your healers to keep you up with just one of the two CDs.

[keroo]

You may want to try this:

Anticipate/Prepare where the add would spawn. Then use Tomahawk > Provoke < Tomahawk > (Move close to add) Brutal Swing > then use you 123 Enmity Combo as well as your defensive cooldown (Thrill of the Battle or Vengeance)

[Zaft]

You may want to try this:

Anticipate/Prepare where the add would spawn. Then use Tomahawk > Provoke < Tomahawk > (Move close to add) Brutal Swing > then use you 123 Enmity Combo as well as your defensive cooldown (Thrill of the Battle or Vengeance)

Good God no. DPS are going to be on that add seconds after it spawns and Tomahawk isn't going to keep threat for more than half a second when your BLM shits out a 2-4k Fire III/Flare on it. Prep a Butcher's Block, animation cancel it with Brutal Swing, and Tomahawk for supplemental threat as you move to the position where you're going to tank it.

[SirTaint]

Tomhawk > tomahawk > 1,2,3

That is almost 10 seconds worth of GCD. Way too slow and in the wrong order for repositioning.

SS or canceled BB like zaft said is the only way to go. Tomahawks are for while you are moving if you even need them at all.

[SpookyGhost]

Edit: Relevant Reddit Posts. Unfortunately, the debunking got less press than the initial "trick" got, so it is now widespread.

^^^^^ BS doesn't actually cancel BB's animation, it just registers the damage of BS before the damage of BB giving you quicker snap aggro. If you use any oGCD skill it won't have any affect on BB besides giving you a tiny bit of aggro due to CDs inherently generating aggro when used. BS actually does damage and therefore generates more aggro, thus if you're going to use BB then you should use BS.

[ExCalibre]

Personal experience, the combo with the highest success rate for me is run to spawn location as soon as rage of bahamut finished cast, then provoke add when you can target it and hit it with Skull Sunder. After that if you want to be safe, take a few steps back and use BB, or you can just pull adds away.

[kensatsu]

These adds aggro EXTREMELY fast ? no, these aggros immediately XD

[Geaux]

I just go Steel Cyclone.... No targeting necessary.... soon as i see the name pop , it's mine.

Some say it's not worth it cause you burn your stacks but is your healer being dead a better option ?

[SpookyGhost]

I just go Steel Cyclone.... No targeting necessary.... soon as i see the name pop , it's mine.

Some say it's not worth it cause you burn your stacks but is your healer being dead a better option ?

Steel Cyclone is safe, but:

1.) It's less damage (no Unchained)
2.) It's less mitigation (no IB)

You're better off using Flash if you're going to go this route, imo.