T13 adds

[whiskeybravo]

Dead thread bump xD

Having similar issues with these shadow adds, my breaking point was having the whm still rip off me with an unchained BB on the add >.<

Sounds like the best thing to do is suggest they wait until I can unload a BB on the add before popping that mega cure 3 after Rage. There's not much else I feel can be done, as soon as the add spawns and I can target I hit it with combo'd BB+Brutal using whatever buffs I have up (zerk, Unchained, IR) but it still always flies over and attacks the whm before flying back to me, and of course by that time more heals have gone out.

[Soul_Vigil]

What Zaft said. Two things though... make sure you wait on the voke until your whm is done casting their group heal (should be right as add spawns if timed correctly) and make sure you are using a charged Bucher's Block followed by Inner Beast.


It also sounds like for a few of you the problem may be more with the whm and their heal timing than your snap agro.

[whiskeybravo]

I tried using Provoke>BB first but the results were unfavorable so I just stuck to hitting it with a charged BB. If that's a common technique though I'll try to improve my usage of it. Just seemed like there was a bit of delay using Provoke>BB.. Where as using action>provoke is nearly instant.

[SirTaint]

Skull Sunder is much better to use IMO for the initial contact. The adds die so fast with Echo just tell your BLM and BRD to use an extra GCD on Bahamut. This phase was a DPS check 6 months ago but is no longer.

[whiskeybravo]

I tried that too Taint, just wasn't enough to keep the add there long enough for BB to make contact. Healers too stronk I think lol, hell the whm pulled off with unchained BB, skull sunder not gonna cut it (maybe if they do delay the cure 3 a bit like others suggested, but not atm)

Also may help if I could put more str gear on, but healers are newish, as well as myself so I been using more vit for cushion.

[SirTaint]

I tried that too Taint, just wasn't enough to keep the add there long enough for BB to make contact. Healers too stronk I think lol, hell the whm pulled off with unchained BB, skull sunder not gonna cut it (maybe if they do delay the cure 3 a bit like others suggested, but not atm)

Also may help if I could put more str gear on, but healers are newish, as well as myself so I been using more vit for cushion.

WHMs panic and C3 was too fast during phase 2. If that is the case you need to use Provoke. Skull > (cure3 coming out) voke > BB > Brutal (to cancel animation)

Tell your WHM to chill until after BB. The only damage going out at that time is to the tanks, topping off the DPS is not a concern.

[Myrhn]

Tell the whm to medica2 right after mega flare and do a cure3 when bahamut is casting rage of bahamut. No heal nesessary after rage and medica2 tic will most likely top or near top dps

[whiskeybravo]

OK, I'll try all the suggestions. Thanks! It wasn't necessarily slowing us down, we were able to make it 2nd ahk morn a few times in our 2nd raid night, just trying to polish up the earlier phases, and it's really annoying the adds act like that so was looking for tips

[MythToken]

Flash is the correct way to do it, the timing can be tricky but its worth it.

Another trick is have your WHM run over to you while the add is popping, so even if the add targets him, it wont move.
This allows you to stand there and hit it with stuff. WHM takes 1 hit it's no big deal.

[SpookyGhost]

Flash isn't really the "correct" way to do it, just the most safe. A combo'd SS or BB will gain you more aggro/DPS (since 1 GCD of Flash is no damage). For simply clearing T13 I'd suggest Flash, but I'd work on using SS/BB.