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    What if there is no rival, like in the WHM and Bard story?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    What if there is no rival, like in the WHM and Bard story?
    Actually our Job rival was A-Ruhn-Senna since he focused on trying to complete his task alone while his sister trained us until he learned to accept us. Job Rivals certainly take on different forms and sometimes we don't need to directly fight them for them to be considered as Job Rivals.

    Bard story is certainly a special case since the theme for Bard's Job story was about how a Veteran Soldier suffers from PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) and how our character helps him work through it. Due to this theme there was no real need for a Job rival.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ashrak View Post
    Lex Luthor and David Xanatos.
    Ah that brings back memories of my childhood.

    Lex Luthor does have ambition but I see it more as a obssession since he has issues around superman being called a hero by Humanity when he is not even human. Heck they even shown in alternate realities that if Lex never had his hatred for Superman he would have been a good person. Of course those Good Guy Lex Luthor always end up dying for some reason.

    David Xanatos, while was a little bit villainly in Gargoyles for a certain amount of time, he certainly would fit more into the category of what the Dark Knight Job Rival can be. He knows his goals but never cross the line when he knows it is going too far. Of course that eventually causes him to turn into a Good guy once he started a family.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Actually our Job rival was A-Ruhn-Senna since he focused on trying to complete his task alone while his sister trained us until he learned to accept us. Job Rivals certainly take on different forms and sometimes we don't need to directly fight them for them to be considered as Job Rivals.
    I still see A-Ruhn-Senna as the stubborn little brother, that the devs have only put into the WHM story as a replacement for Oha-Sok.
    Oha-Sok was not the "i don't want to work with you" type. He was the "I will test you. And if I don't like what I see, then the mankind is over" type.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XxT...84838260#t=278

    I still wish that the devs wouldn't have changed the WHM story that much. Every another job stories are the same in dialogue and persons.
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    Last edited by Felis; 01-28-2015 at 04:26 PM.

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    I would not be surprised if a place named Falgabard is mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amelia_Pond_Behemoth View Post
    I would not be surprised if a place named Falgabard is mentioned.
    I won't be surprised as well considering FF14ARR brings about a massive amount of fanservice from other FF games.
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    It's quite obviously going to be this guy.

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    If I die, forgive me. I used to be a Dragoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonkyn20 View Post
    It's quite obviously going to be this guy.


    HAIL THE POWER OF THE SUN!

    Though I hope the ending isn't that "Bad ending".
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonkyn20 View Post
    It's quite obviously going to be this guy.

    If only I could be so grossly incandescent...
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonkyn20 View Post
    It's quite obviously going to be this guy.

    How I would give for a praise the sun emote \o/. I've done all the covenants to completion (1&2), but I really have a thing for the co-op covenants.

    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    If only I could be so grossly incandescent...
    I feel so many Soul brothers and sisters in this thread XD.

    I hope the rival breaks the mold somehow whether maybe we find out they were actually the good "guy" (and we killed them), or some sort of twist. Or with FFXI there was feeding the sword and maybe here--

    The rival and and quest progenitor ends up being a unique void demon in the form of (or sealed within) a sword. Through the quest, maybe early on after feeding it, it breaks into a shard that we can use like a soul gem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I feel so many Soul brothers and sisters in this thread XD.

    I hope the rival breaks the mold somehow whether maybe we find out they were actually the good "guy" (and we killed them), or some sort of twist like with FFXI there was feeding the sword and maybe here--

    The rival and and quest progenitor ends up being a unique void demon in the form of (or sealed within) a sword. Through the quest, maybe early on after feeding it, it breaks into a shard that we can use like a soul gem.
    A good plot twist brings about opportunity but only if it is done right though I would prefer something else than a generic "reveal the main antagonist was a Demon" plot

    Always enjoy a story that makes people question what they know.

    Quote Originally Posted by MageBlack View Post
    I wonder if it will be your inner darkness.

    #deep
    While it is common to place DK in a view of something evil (inner darkness and all) there are other times when Dark Knights are placed as something good but it is just their beliefs that make people think other wise.

    For example, Good Dark Knights often are not bound by gods, religion, laws, kings, queens, and kingdoms because evil people can use those as means to cause harm or escape from their crimes.

    While common to see this as evil, the unbound limit they have gives them more open to act against evil that would use the same system designed to bring good. It also allows them to act faster since not being bound by these things allows them to not be hold back by people of High ranks within these areas.
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