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    Player Buff_Archer's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    He tells us, fine then I'll just stand around AFK and do nothing the whole time until you kick me.
    Sounds like a perfect opportunity to report someone and have it count for more, since they said in the chat log they were going to do something thats prob against the ToS and then they did it. I don't report people much, but the times I have it was either for flat out racist speech in alliance chat or someone intentionally wasting everyone's time in a way that can be objectively proven. There are some people like that, on very rare occasion, where it's not just a matter of me disliking them, but goes far enough that I think we'd be better off not having them in the game, and that's SE's decision and not mine, but if there's information that might help them reach that conclusion I'm happy to share.

    If someone logs into a trial fight and just stands there to leech the rewards for example, can't objectively prove anything like an emergency didn't make them have to AFK. But if they're walking around doing /laugh, /wave, /sit, etc while the rest of the people do the work, that at least shows it's intentional (and it's probably not like they woke up that day and decided to be a total troll for the first time in their life so they probably have prior reports on their account which I hope get taken into account with each new one but who knows). It might be my imagination but the two or three times a randomly composed party from DF and I agreed we were going to report someone after the instance, seems like the response came back a lot quicker and I wonder if someone getting reported by a lot of users from different servers at once, for the same violation, sets off an alarm- but that's just conjecture on my part.
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  2. #32
    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    There was a bard the other night that started begging for us to kick him, after the second boss, because the piece he wanted didn't drop. I said no, we're not kicking you, but you can leave and take the penalty. Oh boy, did the childish ranting come out. He tells us, fine then I'll just stand around AFK and do nothing the whole time until you kick me.

    Sometimes I honestly wonder if I'm playing this game with 13 year olds based on "me, me, me" mentality and the childish behavior I see.
    I once had a tank in Gaurda EX who threw a fit after a few wipes and got into an argument with the rest of the party. He decided to be a jerk by standing around and doing nothing and then laughing when people started to quit. My friend reported him and a GM replied back very quickly.

    People need to use the report feature more.
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  3. #33
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    Quote Originally Posted by PArcher View Post
    Huh. I haven't seen any Trolling on WoD yet...and I've run it at least a dozen or two times across two characters. And people not knowing mechanics or not paying attention =/= Trolling.

    Lota, on the other hand...lots of Trolling (especially the last boss...Ancient Flare is nearly an insta cast. I'm calling him out on it now)
    I've only seen one troll in WoD so far, and they were dealt with via a heavy hand immediately. Ninja ran in after an impatiant "Just pull." on the five headed dragon while people were still coming. Some peeps got locked out (luckily not a lot) and the tanks had a difficult time gaining hate. That one ninja seriously almost wiped us from the beginning because of that. "Never do that again." *Ninja kicked*

    In the LoTA trolling I've experienced/can remember, it was always the Atmos part >_<
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  4. #34
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    Sounds like a perfect opportunity to report someone and have it count for more, since they said in the chat log they were going to do something thats prob against the ToS and then they did it.
    Oh, I did. I responded to him that I would report it. His response was that he would lie and claim that it was an internet/game connection issue. Right at that point, is where another member of the alliance initiated a vote kick that went through.
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    never happen in japanese data center
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massterchef View Post
    If he kept pulling early you all could have stepped out of the barrier and let him die.

    If he was verbally harassing, you could have blacklisted or ignored him.

    In-game tools, use them.
    Verbal harassment can be reported to the GMs. Next time a player actually harasses you or another player or a group of players report them for harassment. As soon as people start spouting abuse like that you have the grounds to report them and Square has the grounds to punish them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Oh, I did. I responded to him that I would report it. His response was that he would lie and claim that it was an internet/game connection issue. Right at that point, is where another member of the alliance initiated a vote kick that went through.
    dont they have tools to check chat logs anyways so he would of still been found out no matter what his excuse was :P trolls just wanna see the world burn cause got nothin better to do with thier lives
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    I've thankfully never seen this happen, ever. What I do see happen ALOT, is this so called "Verbal Abuse", and it's almost always the other parties fault, not the person being chastised. If you choose to have a big mouth and start things with someone else by running it off, you have no right to expect them to not retaliate, foul language or not. Nobody should stand for any form of abuse, and they shouldn't be bullied into thinking that it's okay to be talked poorly about, then threatened with reporting after they retaliate. It seems people need to just grow up and be adults, and stop whining and running to the GM's every time something doesn't go their way. I'd be curious to see how many of you people weren't actually at fault for verbal harassment. I'm sure those numbers are very low.
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    Soube Miseux
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    I wouldn't mind having a disclaimer appear when the duty finder comes up saying intentional AFK'ing may result in a loss of 3 weekly lockouts if reported and found guilty.
    Quote Originally Posted by Buff_Archer View Post
    Sounds like a perfect opportunity to report someone and have it count for more, since they said in the chat log they were going to do something thats prob against the ToS and then they did it.
    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Oh, I did. I responded to him that I would report it. His response was that he would lie and claim that it was an internet/game connection issue. Right at that point, is where another member of the alliance initiated a vote kick that went through.
    Going AFK in a duty, even if you can prove it was intentional is not against the ToS and there is absolutely nothing GMs will do about it. Ask anyone who ran Castrum for Philo tomes, AFKers do not get punished.

    That being said, when I get a party with people who simply refuse to listen or learn, or who are intentionally trolling, I will absolutely AFK until they kick me. Why should I eat the penalty for other people's bad behavior?
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    I personally like the step out idea. done that a few times.
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    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

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