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  1. #21
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Adore Mi
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    There was a bard the other night that started begging for us to kick him, after the second boss, because the piece he wanted didn't drop. I said no, we're not kicking you, but you can leave and take the penalty. Oh boy, did the childish ranting come out. He tells us, fine then I'll just stand around AFK and do nothing the whole time until you kick me.

    Sometimes I honestly wonder if I'm playing this game with 13 year olds based on "me, me, me" mentality and the childish behavior I see.
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    Player Gemma's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    There was a bard the other night that started begging for us to kick him, after the second boss, because the piece he wanted didn't drop. I said no, we're not kicking you, but you can leave and take the penalty.
    See I was farming the same piece (body piece) and not once did I leave or half ass my job if it didn't drop. And believe me, it took AWHILE (like 15+ runs & none were in progress). I really don't get that behavior, if you have decided to farm it then accept the fact you're going to probably be at it for awhile so suck it up and stay. No one is making you run it constantly, that's your choice so don't punish the party by being a sore loser. Glad you didn't boot the guy lol

    The plus side for me staying though, almost finished farming Light for my Novus ^_^b haha
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  3. #23
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    Well, then the childish behavior was rewarded. Because someone else in the party initiated a vote kick, and while I voted no, I was outvoted, because he got kicked. So, he ended up getting away with it which was frustrating.
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  4. #24
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    It's why I am hesitant to do WoD. ST wasn't bad but I remember back during CT when it first released, wiping on trash mobs at the beginning, people just trolled hard and pulled. People just left and ruined the entire run. :/ There was another troll in WoD. During the Cerberus fight you get hit with Innerspace (The Minium AoE Spell.) He ran into the other alliance which WASN'T being eaten and threw out in alliance chat. "CERBERUS EATS ALL THE THINGS!" Luckily people dodged until the debuff wore off but as a Healer I was not amused. Some people got a laugh out of it, but it could've caused a wipe.
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    Anna Streeter
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    Hi Lycelle,

    I just completed my first WoD having not watched the youtube videos prior.

    I saw no evidence of trolling, however things are being done differently..

    Ready check - not ready - No problem, the run goes anyway.
    Immediate pull, no waiting.
    Casting of Protect and Stoneskin - Gone. No longer done. Immediate pull disallows time to do it.
    Lockouts - no more waiting a few seconds, for late arrivals (where healer would not cast rez, they had to return to shortcut)
    Raise at the end, for those who die last few seconds - no longer done.

    Went back thru ST afterwards. Same thing. No more protect and stoneskin, lockouts are acceptable, early pulls are the norm.

    It would seem, that full alliances with protect and stoneskin would bring down the bosses faster than having lockouts waiting. Oh well, there are super-smart gamer decision makers out there who know far more than I ever will
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  6. #26
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    Tonrak Totorak
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    WoD has alot more wipe mechanics: The 1st boss is just ridiculous with all the things you have to pay attention to,so even if you know the mechanics you can still die if you dont do/go to X in time. 2nd boss is somewhat reasonable. Cerberus is also a mess.

    Combine that to trolls then you get a complete mess of a time. I find that there are less people purposely trolling after reset since nearly everyone there are trying to get a piece. And they'll either just leave willingly or afk to get vote kicked.

    Its nearing the end of the week, however, is when the trolls come in full force.
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    Last edited by myahele; 01-29-2015 at 03:50 AM.

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    Player MilesSaintboroguh's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by myahele View Post
    WoD has alot more wipe mechanics: The 1st boss is just ridiculous with all the things you have to pay attention to,so even if you know the mechanics you can still die if you dont do/go to X in time. 2nd boss is somewhat reasonable. Cerberus is also a mess.

    Combine that to trolls then you get a complete mess of a time.
    And that is why complex mechanics outside of the coil raids will never be fully utilized or appreciated.
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  8. #28
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    CT = Congregating Trolls
    ST = See Trolls
    WOD = Watch other Die

    Q: How many trolls does take to screw in a lightbulb?
    A: No one will ever know. They are too busy screwing over other people for lulz to ever getting around to lightbulb.

    But seriously, it comes down to numbers and statistics. Trolls do show up in 4 player content, but given that there are only a finite number of trolls, the larger the group the more likely your will encounter one. That is why the hunts get trolled most often by early pulling trolls, because it takes only one to screw things up for everyone else. And something like CT/ST/WoD gives them the big audience they crave.
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    Last edited by NyarukoW; 01-29-2015 at 03:52 AM.

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    Sometimes I honestly wonder if I'm playing this game with 13 year olds based on "me, me, me" mentality and the childish behavior I see.
    That is the saddest thing about this entire thing. Its not kids acting like kids, its a bunch of well aged individuals acting like kids.

    I wouldn't mind having a disclaimer appear when the duty finder comes up saying intentional AFK'ing may result in a loss of 3 weekly lockouts if reported and found guilty.
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  10. #30
    Player PArcher's Avatar
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Huh. I haven't seen any Trolling on WoD yet...and I've run it at least a dozen or two times across two characters. And people not knowing mechanics or not paying attention =/= Trolling.

    Lota, on the other hand...lots of Trolling (especially the last boss...Ancient Flare is nearly an insta cast. I'm calling him out on it now)
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