Should Cleric Stance be disabled during Dungeons and Raids?

[Anna_Lannis]

The problem with being a healer in a MMO, is that oftentimes you aren't treated like a fellow companion at all. In most cases you are treated like an NPC or a pocket fairy that follows around and just restores you HP bar. The only time a healer plays a significant role in a story (as in a Main Character), is in an RPG. There was a time when "role" didn't mean "healer", "damage dealer", and it was a time being a "front line fighter" meant something, when being a healer also meant being able to prevent damage, and magic-users weren't glorified ranged attackers.

A BIGGER problem is that most people who play MMOs stop thinking like videogamers. I remember being a videogamer was about interacting with the game world, and in an RPG points actually represented something. Most people nowadays, like play cookie cutter because it's easy, its popular and its the path of least resistance. Most people who see a healer DPS and think WTF is because most people who DPS as healers or going that extra mile. No matter how well I have done on runs, there will always be those that light their torches and sharpen their pitchforks the moment Cleric Stance comes on, and if anything bad happens, instant lynch mob.

I remember in FFXI i would use Regen and barspells in dynamis and melee would do something stupid and demand a Cure V. I've been in instances in WoW where people would go in and one shot the first boss, save everyone to the instance, and then kick a healer who's total healing was low because they threw some dots on the boss when the tank didn't need healing. There are times simply by being a GAMER instead of a HEALER, that you cannot do right by anyone. For those people who complain FFXIV is the way it is and that FFXI had a strong community and other BS, it is this attitude and many like it that drove people away from FFXI.

I remember in FFXI i would use Regen and barspells in dynamis and melee would do something stupid and demand a Cure V. I've been in instances in WoW where people would go in and one shot the first boss, save everyone to the instance, and then kick a healer who's total healing was low because they threw some dots on the boss when the tank didn't need healing. There are times simply by being a GAMER instead of a HEALER, that you cannot do right by anyone. For those people who complain FFXIV is the way it is and that FFXI had a strong community and other BS, it is this attitude and many like it that drove people away from FFXI.

No. Cleric Stance needs to stay. It needs to stay so good healers can be great. It can stop a wipe if something goes wrong @ 3% of a boss fight. It needs to stay in cast a DPS d/cs. It needs to stay because its a tool native to your job class, and even if not everyone wants to use it, it needs to be there. Are you the person who would ban guns simply because certain people don't want to learn to use them properly? Or are you going to let us use our tools so we can help our fellow adventurers kill things and take their stuff.

[Tiggy]

Anna you can edit your post to add additional lines well past the post size limit. That way you don't need to multipost just to say everything.

[Neuflune]

Holy for White Mages has a stun component attached to it. You can cast 3 Holy before mobs get Stun Immunity.

^ So this.