Is it to late ,Gil?

[Ruddi]

A simple way to become rich is to get your all crafting jobs to 50 and use a guide on how to craft 2 star mats like Darksteel Ingot, Vanya Silk and Treated Spruce Lumber make a macro and buy or farm the mats and you can easy make 40-50% back when sell thees on my server.

I also do gardening for a bit income sometimes a huge income when berry & fruits get low on the marked.

I am rich and own a medium personal house most of my gil come from crafting HQ mats I also craft HQ

Light Steel Galerus
Light Steel Subligar

They sell slow but I can easy make back 100k pr sell or more.

Getting them 3 and 4 star crafting jobs is cool but I bet you the cost for making the items is evening up the selling prize really fast.

[Caoihmin]

How do u make that much? You are SBing lvl 40 gears which give Materia III mainly which last I checked aren't going to add up to your amount. Especially in 1.5 hours. Secret?

[Gillionaire]

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If i were you, with Heavensward only 3 months away.. and who knows what's gonna keep you occupied once 2.55 drops, I'd just level GSM only. Forget everything else, just get GSM to level 50 and get yourself a full Goldsmith's set and the cheaper accessories (i.e. Aethryte Ring, Militia Wrist, just swap out the Rose Gold choker and mosshorn earrings for something a little more affordable) then start making hq spinel accessories for spiritbonding and sell the resulting materia.

Sounds like you already have experience selling materia from spiritbonding, you just need to streamline the process. You already have an advantage from having an i130 weapon (I assume)

That's what I'd do if I wanted to make some gil before Heavensward with your circumstances.

I don't know about your pace, but I imagine it would take around 2-3 weeks to get all your craft up to 50.. Then you need to spend a few million to get the gear up, then REALLY spend some money to get ready for 3-4 star crafting.. I don't see you turning a profit in less than a month, more likely 2 months. It is very viable in the long run, as you have a constant source of gil if you're a crafter.. Just not sure if it'd be worth it with Heavensward around the corner unless you want to go all-in.

How do u make that much? You are SBing lvl 40 gears which give Materia III mainly which last I checked aren't going to add up to your amount. Especially in 1.5 hours. Secret?

I bet his trade secret is the ilvl of the gear which he doesn't mention in his post.. Think lv 50 mobs are best for sb'ing ilv 40 gear not ilv 45-49

[Gillionaire]

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You're broke because you're spending money where it isn't necessary..

I don't have a single off hand melded because it's just not needed for anything.
If you have your lucis tool, which you SHOULD get before your off hand anyway your stats should be as follows.

472 crafts
426 control
352 CP.

All your offhand should have is 4 Control and 3 CP, but that's not even necessary so I decided to just save my money..
At 472 craftsmanship you're already at a softcap, next one it in the 500s and you won't decrease the number of synthesis steps by any. The one exception I've found to this so far has been the primal weapons.. But you can just use the FC buff for that to get to 482 craftsmanship and you will be able to craft with 1 step less but you wouldn't really be making primal weapons for money anyway.. nobody ever buys them



Another thing of note:

if you've spent 3m each on the off hands, or if you made them yourself, let's say 1.5m. That's already 12m gil for all the off hands MINIMUM.
You can actually craft up to 3 stars with lucis + militia. Or artisan + artisan off hand can do it too, with a bit of a food buff iirc.

Don't expect to make your money back on 4 star crafting, you can even skip the manual altogether if you'd like.. Point is, you need to stay lean to have some extra gil laying around.. So sorry to hear about your apron That must've been a tough decision to make.

[Caoihmin]

A lot of people buy the MorDhona vendor's gear and do those.

I make an iL 55 set of armor, the right side being L 50 crafting and / or gathering accessories. If I have any pink dungeon drops L 45 - 50 I will wear those. I have been thinking about making iL 70 combat accessories and running some patrician gear.

Where do u SB tho?

[Squand]

You're broke because you're spending money where it isn't necessary..

I don't have a single off hand melded because it's just not needed for anything.
472 crafts
426 control
352 CP.

I see people with these budget builds and it blows my mind. Whenever they stop and talk to me, they are similar to you. Don't need it, do just fine. 90% HQ with all NQ Matts 4*

But I couldn't give up my 440 control. I have 2 "lean." And... it's just not as smooth. That little extra umph, is so nice and allows for sweet early endings. 9 stacks, let's be done!

Also, I want to throw this out there, Patricians + Lucis + fully melded off hand = dream.

Before lucis, I found 4* incredibly stressful, with this control build I can miss goods or fat finger ever once in a while and keep trucking to 100%. Without it, it was like one false step = doom. Psychologically, I want the wiggle room.

[Gillionaire]

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Oh that's true.. I would certainly put more control on my off hand if I crafted more 4 stars..

But I can already hq 3 stars without problem and I just don't see much worth crafting in the 4 star department. Just not enough demand to make a business out of it.

But what I was referring to, is that she ended up risking 1.2m gil, and likely even more for the pentameld and for what? So she can make 3 artisan gear for herself and sell 1 or 2? It's just not worth the investment imo..

I do plan on pentamelding my offhands for CUL and ALC though, I think those have more uses. but not Craftsmanship, NEVER

Also, I want to throw this out there, Patricians + Lucis + fully melded off hand = dream

Btw, why Patrician's?? That's a very interesting progression path.. I've never considered that one before

[Squand]

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I hear you.

As to patricians gear, I sb it. So when I produce anything that's under 4* I wear my "gsm low level" set. (or which ever is appropriate)

I make six sets of Patricains and leave it in my armory at all times. If somethings bonded, I convert it and then use the hot key to put on a new set of clothes. It will automatically pull 0% sp bonded gear if the old gear is gone. It's pretty slick.

[Gillionaire]

I hear you.

As to patricians gear, I sb it. So when I produce anything that's under 4* I wear my "gsm low level" set. (or which ever is appropriate)

I make six sets of Patricains and leave it in my armory at all times. If somethings bonded, I convert it and then use the hot key to put on a new set of clothes. It will automatically pull 0% sp bonded gear if the old gear is gone. It's pretty slick.

Ohhh I see.. that's a really good idea actually considering how much crafting I do for just the basic 1-2star mats..
The patrician's are still on 10% tier IV though right? Or is it a little higher?

[xallever]

This is what I did for my crafting "progression":

I started with GSM because I would like to be able to craft all the right-side on my own.

And then I realized that I needed to level everything up to lvl 15 anyways. I think, I went on next to WVR/LTW because I thought I'd like to be able to craft the left side + Careful Desynth skill. I got Alc to lvl 15 last because I wasn't aware of how good the ToT skill is and I probably would advice people to get CD I and ToT ASAP.

Once I got everything up to level 15, I continued leveling my GSM thinking I would want to make that my 'main' craft. But then, as Hasty Touch + SH I proved to be infuriating, I thought I'd make CUL 37 to be my first aim. At the same time, I wanted to be able to craft HQ on my own gears. I think, what that resulted in was that I had all my crafts steadily being leveled together up to level 30 (esp BSM, WVR, LTW and GSM) and that was when I power-leveled my CUL to level 37.