Kicked from raid team due to colorblind

[ColorOfSakura]

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First of all, chill out.

Secondly, while they did win an award for being incredibly accommodating (something that I, as a colorblind player, really appreciate), there are still issues with certain mechanics in the game being indistinguishable for colorblind players. I'm not even commenting on the T11 tethers here. Even with differing animations, color is still the most OBVIOUS indicator.

Hell, they had to retroactively fix Shiva's Icicle Impact AoEs (3 months later) because colorblind players were having problems. And they still haven't fixed the AoE indicator for the dives in the Isgebind encounter in Stone Vigil (which really mess up players with non red/green colorblindness). They're doing a good job, but they aren't perfect. Just because they won an award doesn't mean that they still don't have things in the game that are issues to the colorblind players.

Having a full colorblind mode would be easier because it would mean they wouldn't have to hotfix issues constantly that lead to colorblind players having troubles. Changing the scaling of different color palettes makes us able to distinguish colors without having to look at tether animations in order to figure out what the hell we have.

WoW has managed to do it, I don't see why it's such a stretch for FFXIV to do it. It's literally just a series of color filters that can be swapped through.

[ninthfantasy]

While I agree it should be more accommodating to those who are colour-blind, you also need to find a group that aren't arseholes. They should help you distinguish them, not just kick you. When you're looking for a group just explain, you may have some problems in T11 due to being colour blind, but are willing to find a work-around. You'll find a group eventually.

[Izsha]

Didn't read all 9 pages so sorry if it's been said. The shape and design of the tethers are also different.

The red and green tethers are 2 strands (1 red 1 green) that are twirled around each other like a double helix.

The blue tether is 1 thicker line with a lighter (light blue, almost white) wide center strip and darker edges (darker blue) side stripes.

Obviously it's not as loud as seeing the colors as designed but they are actually shaped differently and have different design.

[Airget]

This thought came to mind but what if they just added a shape around the person in question, those are easy to distinguish from, square, circle and triangle like above. It wouldn't be muddled by those who are color blind which I do feel may be an issue for some color blind even if the tether's look different the color may cause the visual to bleed a bit so maybe something like the above would make it easier for visual cues.

[NyarukoW]

I'm just saying what was told to me. We'll talk in game since this doesn't need to be discussed on the forums, but for the original post, i can assure you it wasn't your color blindness.

What is it with these raid statics? Why are they so impatient and so eager to rush to judgement and kick people. What is so wrong with being more inclusive and accommodating? Why not think outside of the box and try to come up with a working solution to solve the problem. Perhaps color was not the issue, but recognizing stuff faster takes practice even for the non-color blind. Raid awareness is typically not a skill people are born with but learned. Raid statics are hard to find, hard to create, and hard to maintain, yet people are more eager to blow stuff up than trying to work thru the issue. The vast majority of players have trouble even getting past T9, and by excluding others you will have a even smaller pool of players to draw upon.

[Ophie-Mio]

Once again to everyone who fails to read the thread, the OP was kicked from their group because they were a personality problem. They argued with various members of their raid and the leader.

They were not kicked because of their colorblindness or skill.
REPEAT: They were not kicked because of their colorblindness or skill.

They were kicked because they were argumentative.

[Tiggy]

I wish I wasn't at work and had a good image of the tethers. I found a good web app that appears to simulate various types of color blindness and I'd love to see the difference. Although I thought that had other physical distinctions that should help other than just color, but to be fair color is the easiest method for sure.

[Krr]

It's really sad and disgusting that certain people are trying to turn requests for simple accessibility into raid drama, when none of the members of the raid were ever named or targeted for anything, but came in here to start a fight.

[Krr]

When the OP made statements like "they cared more about loot than helping me out." I am pretty damn sure that it was the OP that was starting the fight.

Considering you weren't even named and this is a very large forum that you didn't even have an active account on...until you and several others started posting in this thread to argue about the OP's 'player skill' and add several defamatory tags to it...no, I don't believe OP had any intention to start a fight with you or anyone from their former raid group.

They probably think you're awful human beings and never want to interact with you again. Based on your unapologetic borderline stalking and harassment, and potential violation of forum rules (turning a thread into a callout thread) I'd believe them.

[Tiggy]

What is it with these raid statics? Why are they so impatient and so eager to rush to judgement and kick people. What is so wrong with being more inclusive and accommodating?

You along with many others did nothing more than read the OP and then post. A member of that users raid team already posted and said it was a personality issue.

Everyone, try to read threads before shouting off at the mouth. :/