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  1. #11
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    Atomnium's Avatar
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    Flare Oskopnir
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Invision View Post
    It seems my final coil days are over. Tethers on T11 are a huge problem for me due to red and green color blindness, they are impossible for me to distinguish fast enough and it causes wipes. This has pisses off my team which led them to kick me.

    This also was a issue with other fights but I managed to get through or have another player tell me what color I had, this was not the case for t11 as they cared more about loot than helping me out. Could make life easier by making tethers yellow, or white, but green and red is a no go.

    So my options are limited and may even have to quit the game as very few people are willing to help someone like me.
    I don't know what to say but I really want to send you a virtual hug right now.
    The problem isn't you, it was your raid leader being an asshole, really... You would be in my team, I would do an extra effort to call where you have to go.

    Don't give up, kiss and cheer.
    (7)

  2. #12
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    Velo'a Nharoz
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    If we do not have an option for color blindness we should petition for one.

    I know in World of Warcraft you can turn on an option for that as one of my friends IRL is color blind and still plays that MMO.
    The main issue is that red-green color deficiency is more common in Caucasian males (~10% of all males) than it is in Asian males (~5% of all males), so it's more common for an American or European company to have work-arounds right off the bat. An Eastern company wouldn't necessarily address the problem right away, especially since such a small number of people would be affected. I have a hue-deficiency that I suffer from due to an illness many years ago and I can only distinguish about 1/10 of the hues of a normal person. Certain mechanics in MMOs can be a bitch due to it, like Shiva before the indicator change. I can actually do this fight now without relying on someone to call out the safe spots xD.
    (1)

  3. #13
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    Myrhn Shirayuki
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    Hyperion
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Just as a work around, if u have tether see if they are blue if they are not you have the red/green ones.
    (0)
    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.


  4. #14
    Player JayCommon's Avatar
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    Indaki Sativa
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephier View Post
    Typically with tethers you are always paired with the same person, at least in melee range I am always paired with our DRG unless she is dead. I do not see why your partner could not call out for you. For example "<insert name> go to A/B/C>". Not that difficult. Quite a dumb reason to kick someone.

    It doesn't work like that for ranged classes. It does for melee and tanks, which is why your tether is always to the DRG as long as he's alive.


    Quote Originally Posted by Sove92 View Post
    And if memory serves me right, a ranged DD and a healer are always paired together, you never have 2 ranged DDs or both healers paired together, as long as party composition allows it, or no one is dead.

    ...what?


    I (as bard) get tethered to the summoner in our group all the time. We are the only two ranged DD in our comp. And I have watched us wipe before because the scholar and WHM tried to spread for missile at the same time. These situations both occurred while there were no deaths in the party.

    Caster DD, Bard and Healer are all grouped into the "ranged" category, and any combination of them being tethered together is possible during that phase. It is only: tanks that always get paired, and melee will always get paired if there is only 2 of them as you stated before.

    I've actually gotten flank tethers 3 times in a row where I was tethered to a different member of the "ranged" category all 3 times. Once to SMN, once to WHM and once to SCH. Needless to say, they moved to me


    edit: I do echo the sentiment that this is a stupid reason to kick you, OP. There is plenty of time to coordinate for tethers that 1 extra second could be used to call out which tether you have. Or have a contingency plan in place for when you get tethered that the person who has the same color as you can just move to you, and you have a designated spot for flank tethers.

    We do that for our melee. B (green) and C (blue) because the color of the waypoint matches the color of the tethers, but our monk hits his positionals on C side so if he gets a flank tether they will always go to C, regardless of which color they actually have. This could easily be implemented for you as well. Sounds like you're better off finding new people to raid with anyway. Good luck, and hopefully this actually doesn't make you quit the game ;-;
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    Last edited by JayCommon; 01-27-2015 at 06:26 AM.

  5. #15
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    Ehayte's Avatar
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    Supply Demand
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    Adamantoise
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    Warrior Lv 72
    Its totally ridiculous if this is the sole reason you are getting kicked. The operative word being "if."
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  6. #16
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    Ein Vaer
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    Excalibur
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Red/green one looks more like a DNA helix.
    Blue is more a solid line.
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  7. #17
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    Murah Jhida
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    Cactuar
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    Lancer Lv 50
    T11 Tethers will always tether any combination of two tanks, two DPS, or one healer and one DPS. Which combinations are chosen is random but you will see a lot of repeat sets because the pool of options is limited. The main restriction is that the game won't be super-evil and tether two healers, or make tanking impossible by tethering a tank to a nontank.

    Regardless, why the hell doesn't this game have a proper colorblind mode for this yet? Yes, the tethers have subtle visual differences, but distinguishing flat thing from vaguely wiggly wavy thing is still a lot harder than distinguishing "color A" from "color B".
    (2)
    video games are bad

  8. #18
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Invision View Post
    may even have to quit the game as very few people are willing to help someone like me.
    Don't threaten to quit the game because you're colour blind. Your static were complete assholes and do not understand how to accommodate for all players in a static. I guarantee they're the type of team who watches a Mr. Happy video and puts the video on a pedestal, following its every word. Your raid leader should of identified a weakness in your group an changed the tactic slightly to iron it out. Instead, your Raid Leader opted for the most banal out to a problem, instead of fixing it, delete it from existence. "oh no I have to think about one more action when I'm most probably sitting here with a finger up my asshole not doing call outs". Yeah, good job Raid Leader, you're such a pro.

    Fuck him/her and that static. Find players who're actually reasonable people and would take you in regardless of being colourblind.
    (4)

  9. #19
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    Sho Yuki
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    Coeurl
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Invision View Post
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    I have seen many raid teams with colorblind people and T11 has never been issue for them. My old team had SCH who has one of the best SCH's I have ever seen, well that is irrelevant, but anyways I think the way he did it he looked who had tethers and adjusted accordingly, for example if me and melee has tethers and we stayed at point A, it was obvious that he would go to point B if he had one.

    Anyways there are many ways to deal with this and each teams should see which works best for them, I think there are other underlying issues why you were kicked and they used that as an excuse or you bent the story a little. Your profile says that your main class is a healer, so it could be that you are not a strong healer or made 24/7 mistakes, so they got rid off you.

    "So my options are limited and may even have to quit the game as very few people are willing to help someone like me." also this just being a child for giving up so easily. You are not a martyr, you can find a new team, move on and I bet many people are willing to take you if you prove that you have what it takes.
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  10. #20
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    Ashkendor Zahirr
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 90
    If that's their only reason for kicking you, they're assholes. My raid team has a member that's colorblind and I never even knew it until we got to T9 and he had trouble with the golems. As there was no way we were going to kick a friend (and a very good black mage) for something like that, we adjusted our strategy. The adjustment? Mark the green golem. It's simple and quick and solves the problem. Why your team couldn't be bothered to tell you what color of tether you had is beyond comprehension. It sounds more like an excuse to me.

    As far as quitting, don't let something like that sour you to the entire game. As long as that was the only issue, I'm sure you can find a static that's perfectly willing to work with you.
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