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    Quote Originally Posted by Invision View Post
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    As someone who was in your raid group, your colorblindness was not the issue. The wipes to the tethers was due to the lack of practice because at the time we had only seen them three or four times. The largest reason from what i was able to get was the arguments that kept coming up between you and the raid leader and a few others. Being able to get along is a big part of a raid group. I'm not sure what went on between you all, but it wasn't your color blindness

    Now, I am not the raid lead, and i was not among the ones who voted you out. I actually had no idea at the time that they removed you. You're not a bad player, so don't quit. One group does not make the game. A healer with t10-11 experience should be able to find another group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayneBoemir View Post
    Nonsense I am sure they can use something like Purple/Black, Bright Yellow, Red or Green not both or White. It is just certain shades I have a problem distinguishing a dull red/green look the same to me, but I can tell the telegraphed abilities are red because of its hue. Anyways someone who doesn't have this issue can never comprehend or sympathize with their fellow human beings and that goes for other things in life and that is just sad. Anyways I just came in here to sympathize with the OP so adiós.
    What I described was common sense in the world. Just because I didn't coddle the OP doesn't mean I didn't sympathize with what they thought happened. However, as others have stated, this game is super friendly in terms of its accessibility to people with color blindness. My statement to you just answered why a lot of the telegraphs are red/orange. It's just standard danger color. As I stated with Shiva, they do use white telegraphs but they had to change that so that everyone could see it.

    I also don't really need to sympathize with people who can't really see certain elements of fights. There are tons of non-colorblind players who can't see certain things and I treat them all the same. I couldn't see Shiva's aoes until the last second but no one ever patted me on the back. Ramuh's thunder circles make it hard for me to see but I don't expect sympathy for that either. If you wanna raid, you have to raid to the same standard as everyone else. I wouldn't let any raider slide even if they had color blindness. I expect them to figure it out just like the others do. It may take them longer but I expect them not to be a burden the same as any other.

    I'm not sympathizing and coddling you because I'm going to treat you like an equal.

    I also had a friend who couldn't see any version of red or any color that wasn't basically blue, yellow or grey. Somehow he played this game perfectly.

    Saying that I don't sympathize with you because I laid down common knowledge is you reflecting off me what others in this post have said. Sympathize for the OP I left to others since I highly doubted it was because of their color blindness. Thankfully, someone from their raid came in here and answered that it wasn't due to their color blindness but from their arguments with the leader.
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    Last edited by Ophie-Mio; 01-27-2015 at 09:12 AM.

  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeith-Adeline View Post
    Well, to be honest, your teammates are assholes. I don't see the issue in calling out the tethers. I do believe that the color options should be better adjusted for handicapped individuals though.
    What? No...? They're unable to perform a fight mechanic, and as such the group can not progress and beat the encounter. The group is well within its right to remove whoever they choose in order to be successful.
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Preinfalk View Post
    As someone who was in your raid group, your colorblindness was not the issue. The wipes to the tethers was due to the lack of practice because at the time we had only seen them three or four times. The largest reason from what i was able to get was the arguments that kept coming up between you and the raid leader and a few others. Being able to get along is a big part of a raid group. I'm not sure what went on between you all, but it wasn't your color blindness

    Now, I am not the raid lead, and i was not among the ones who voted you out. I actually had no idea at the time that they removed you. You're not a bad player, so don't quit. One group does not make the game. A healer with t10-11 experience should be able to find another group.


    Actually I felt as I got along with everyone, I made jokes with people, made y'all raid food. So actually this comes as a surprise to even hear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 314159265358979323846264338327 View Post
    What? No...? They're unable to perform a fight mechanic, and as such the group can not progress and beat the encounter. The group is well within its right to remove whoever they choose in order to be successful.
    I agree with the sentiment, but not in this case.

    We've already pointed in this thread that t11 tethers can be distinguished in ways besides their respective colors.
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    best part bout it is they can easily say who your tethered to and which direction to go..

    your better off without them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Invision View Post
    Actually I felt as I got along with everyone, I made jokes with people, made y'all raid food. So actually this comes as a surprise to even hear.

    I'm just saying what was told to me. We'll talk in game since this doesn't need to be discussed on the forums, but for the original post, i can assure you it wasn't your color blindness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovescake View Post
    best part bout it is they can easily say who your tethered to and which direction to go..
    If it were an execution case, which it wasn't, then yea, they could have. But if someone needs to have such things called out... Directions are usually dictated pre-battle and saying who you are tethered to...come on, who wants to hold anyone's hand like that? Regardless of the color, there are still black things hooked to you that let you see. If you can't see, then ask the group to spread out a bit more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    I guarantee they're the type of team who watches a Mr. Happy video and puts the video on a pedestal, following its every word.
    The funny thing about this comment is that Mr. Happy is colorblind himself, and looking at his t11 guide, he thought the tethers were black and white.
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    Most people in this thread sound like they haven't even done T11 or they would call out the nonsense straight away instead of being ignorant to it and racing to join the hugbox. The tethers have a different shape as well, you don't have to see the color.

    Quote Originally Posted by RayneBoemir View Post
    I don't even understand why the developers insist on using red and green in dungeons/raid mechanics when it's known to be the most common color blindness in people. I can't distinguish certain shades of red/green and its pretty bad. I was irritated in T9 on golems before I found out that the green and red golems are also differentiated by their shape of the shoulders.
    Like this, you haven't even done t11 but you are sure that the OP is right and leap right to their defense. They did the exact same thing in t11, the tethers have different colors and shapes, they did this because they are conscious of colorblindness. You are way too easily lied to.
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