Turn 9 Meteors

[Mastanight]

This is got to be the stupidest part of any fight in this game, its to precise especially for DF. Maybe wouldn't be as bad if you had a regular static to perfect all day but otherwise forget it.
It's like every fight you have to explain to the new person so much I think thats why they quit. Even with exp'd players 99% of the wipes occur here at phase 2, 6 meteors. I suggest not to use anything where one player instantly wipes whole party instantly again, more of a single player game mechanic.

[PArcher]

Coordinaton is hard apparently. Both the sprint method and position method are easy enough for randoms to do of they can pay attention to what is going on. At least it isnt 8 like in Savage...

And the meteors aren't nearly as tough as the last phase.

But, t9 isn't meant for everyone to beat. It got only the echo for a reason, no mechanic nerfs

And honestly, if you can't handle t9, you don't belong in FCoB at all, which is the main reason for anyone to beat it now

[Reokudo]

You can heal wounds, cure diseases, but you can never cure stupid.

[sharazisspecial]

You can heal wounds, cure diseases, but you can never cure stupid.

You can with mumble.

[Tiggy]

I'd argue that part is tricky, but no where near as bad as teaching people elementals in the final phase.

[Reokudo]

You can with mumble.

Even with a VOIP, you still can't fix that. My original WHM in my static was proof of this.

[gamesmart]

You're talking about doing a high tier endgame raid with a bunch of randoms of varying degrees of skill and experience whom you'll very likely never meet again. Honestly, do you really expect something to come out of it?

It only gets harder after T9, so if you can't get a group that sticks and gets it done then you're going to have even more trouble later on.

one player instantly wipes whole party

You say this like it's the only instance of such a mechanic in the game. *cough*T5/6/7pre-nerf/8/EXprimals/Atomos*cough*

[Elusana_Celah]

VOIP cures stupid eh? If you have someone in your party that requires constant audio feedback from other players during a CLEAR PARTY (NOT a learning party), I suggest finding a replacement. People are worthless to me in a serious battle if they don't know the mechanics on their own and can't pay attention to the fight and focus on their own. I'm not going on VOIP to babysit lazy / useless people.

[sharazisspecial]

VOIP cures stupid eh? If you have someone in your party that requires constant audio feedback from other players during a fight, I suggest finding a replacement. People are worthless to me in a serious battle if they don't know the mechanics on their own and can't pay attention to the fight and focus on their own. I'm not going on VOIP to babysit lazy / useless people.

Well if you give up so easily on people then you don't deserve a win.
In duty finder at least. Everyone has to work together. A princess is just as unhelpful as a scrub.

[Ophie-Mio]

The meteors in the first part aren't hard at all. If the super simple method of just doing them 4 feet apart is too complicated for random DF peeps, then do it the old way. One on the ring of the arena, another on the spire circle.

The hardest thing I've found is reminding them to move once the indicator disappears. Too many people think it's like KB's meteor in CT so they just stand around. People also argue about Mario Kart method or the back and forth one. If they disagree, they don't follow the method and wipe the group. Too many whiners that don't want to play nice.


Meteors at the end isn't an issue. How I was always taught that was that it was tank business. A tank (now especially that there's an off tank) should have learned the possible patterns that meteors can go and marked them up with the markers. If people watched the video, then they will know if they ask which marker is the first one to go to. If you don't know, ask. Ask instead of wiping.

Elementals are awful... People still get them wrong even when farming. This is where 99% of groups fail.

Basically, T9 isn't for DF peeps who don't know what they are doing. I'm sick of seeing people saying that "it's too hard for DF" and that they can only do it with a static. That's bs and it's you deciding that something else is at fault rather than you or the current group you're in.

The issue with DF in general is that you get too wide a variety of player in them. You get experienced people and then you're one of those lucky players who gets into a duty only to find the tank or healer that's decided that going in blind was a perfect idea. Yeah, go in blind to T9 and see how far it gets you. Probably the first Ravensbeak.