Godbert and the syndicate

[Jinrya-Geki]

Multiple times he says he belongs to the syndicate. But when ever the syndicate is gathered he isn't there.

As powerful as he is in the hildibrand questline. And is against wrong doing, why does he not keep them in line?

He could stop most of ul'dah's problems it seems, but doesn't.

[Anonymoose]

As powerful as he is in the hildibrand questline. And is against wrong doing, why does he not keep them in line?

My theory is that the Hildibrand story is semi-canonical, as in one-directional. Everything that happens in Eorzea is canon to the Hildibrand storyline, but not everything that happens in the Hildibrand storyline is canon to Eorzea. Articulate gentlemen zombies, explosives to the face, goldsmith limitbreaks, it's all slapstick commentary on the game-world at large, but need not necessarily be true.

Outside of the Hildibrand storyline, Godbert might not be able to save Eorzea with Manderville Manliness. He may just be a wise, old master GSM.

Multiple times he says he belongs to the syndicate. But when ever the syndicate is gathered he isn't there.

He likes to wear robes at their gatherings, but he's there on occasion. Presence at the Syndicate seems to only be required if you actually expect to wield any of your power. The others don't seem to mind if someone doesn't want to influence the city-state's affairs, as it's more power to them (though they do kind of take it as a personal slight). Raubahn, for instance, won his seat on the Syndicate and took two years off to go they-have-no-idea-where.

[Jinrya-Geki]

Was he there when raubhan made his gc speech?

[Nalien]

Was he there when raubhan made his gc speech?

Was he there when everyone walked out on the Domans?

I mean, kind of lose some respect for him if so... If he'd gone "They can help work on my luxury casino!", we'd maybe have seen the Gold Saucer finished in 2.3!

[WyrahFhurrst]

I don't think they're limit breaks. I think they're the Adrenaline from Frontlines (Slaughter), which would make more sense since he's by himself.

[Enkidoh]

He was, and he indeed did side with Lorolito against the Domans - you see him clearly walk out with the rest of them. I immediately lost all respect for him when I saw that scene, and yes, every time he appears in the Hildibrand quests I just wanted to slap him across the face for what he did. Being a large ham and dispensing gifts to children during the Starlight Celebration does not redeem him for essentially telling a group of desperate political refugees fleeing Imperial tyranny to basically go and drop dead.

But I guess I'm just bitter against the Syndicate in general because my character is not only Ala Mhigan but also a PLD too (which makes her a Royalist). But anyway...

[Nalien]

He was, and he indeed did side with Lorolito against the Domans - you see him clearly walk out with the rest of them.

Now I'm kind of hoping for an official response informing us that the robed/masked "Godbert" at the meetings was simply an impostor Godbert had take his place to keep up appearances while he vacationed at Bronze Lake and played about with his son... Really sucks if it was the real Godbert, especially when he could have stayed and the result would have been the same if I recall correctly, since the majority still would have left. When you consider the Gold Saucer it doesn't even make sense for him to vote against the Domans, since you'd imagine he'd want more workers for that... Were it simply a hired impostor it could make sense though.

[Jinrya-Geki]

He was, and he indeed did side with Lorolito against the Domans - you see him clearly walk out with the rest of them. I immediately lost all respect for him when I saw that scene, and yes, every time he appears in the Hildibrand quests I just wanted to slap him across the face for what he did. Being a large ham and dispensing gifts to children during the Starlight Celebration does not redeem him for essentially telling a group of desperate political refugees fleeing Imperial tyranny to basically go and drop dead.

But I guess I'm just bitter against the Syndicate in general because my character is not only Ala Mhigan but also a PLD too (which makes her a Royalist). But anyway...

Maybe he couldn't help them in front of the Syndicate and is working behind the scenes to help them with Gold Saucer like someone else has said. There a plenty of characters that are evil at face value, but end up being evil for the greater good.

[Necato]

He was, and he indeed did side with Lorolito against the Domans - you see him clearly walk out with the rest of them. I immediately lost all respect for him when I saw that scene

Is he really a bad guy though ?
Ulda'h is crowded with beggars, refugees from different places. Ulda'h being the richest of the 3 Cities, most of the survivors of Bahamut's wrath gathered there. When Ala Mhigo fell, the refugees went straight to Ulda'h. The city is so crowded with people in need, that the Ala Mhigan live under a rock in the desert... And well, Ulda'h is kind of racist on top of that.

Could the city really afford a new wave of refugees ? Moreover, helping them in any way, woud that be fair to the other struggling to live in the streets for years ?

He did side with Lolorito, but not for the same reasons. (whereas Teledji "helped" them because he needed them...)

[Chewy2nd]

Is he really a bad guy though ?
Ulda'h is crowded with beggars, refugees from different places. Ulda'h being the richest of the 3 Cities, most of the survivors of Bahamut's wrath gathered there. When Ala Mhigo fell, the refugees went straight to Ulda'h. The city is so crowded with people in need, that the Ala Mhigan live under a rock in the desert... And well, Ulda'h is kind of racist on top of that.

Could the city really afford a new wave of refugees ? Moreover, helping them in any way, woud that be fair to the other struggling to live in the streets for years ?

He did side with Lolorito, but not for the same reasons. (whereas Teledji "helped" them because he needed them...)

I agree with this, Ul'dah really can't afford more refugees, the city is at breaking point as it is, bringing more refugees in would have meant the Ala Mhigan's would have been sidelined in favour of the Domans, which would likely result in riots and general hatred of the Domans, I mean, the Domans are in a much better place now than they would have been if they were taken in by Ul'dah.