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    Giantbane's Avatar
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    Adol Giantbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    \I don't recall what type of tank DK may be since the only info we got during the revealing was this...
    When discussing it at some point during that show, he said something about the DRK play style would be a parry/evasion tank with dark magic powers.

    It was in the original batch of info that came out from the show when it was announced, I'm not going to go find it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
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    Oh that where it was mentioned. While interesting thing to note I'm a bit concerned how DK would work as a Tank. There is a lot of big hitting attacks that tanks must face and not all can be parry/evaded.

    I hope there is a proper type of mitigration or HP boost in their Tank Stance to balance out the factor with unavoidable skills.
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    Aisu Strong
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    it would make it so you can only swap with provoke
    what if provoke isn't back up in time?
    it is possible to do a swap without provoke
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    Quote Originally Posted by aisustrong View Post
    it would make it so you can only swap with provoke
    what if provoke isn't back up in time?
    it is possible to do a swap without provoke
    Ah, that's a good point which I hadn't considered, because I don't think I've ever seen a need for such a situation, but I can't argue that such a situation would never come up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Metabug View Post
    Moogle EX.
    Which could be dealt with by hitting the healers with the enmity eraser assuming everyone is playing their part correctly.
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    Last edited by Zeful; 01-26-2015 at 04:24 AM.

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    Pretty sure DRK will have to cross from GLA or risk being obsolete, for one simple reason. Provoke. If DRK can't tank swap then it can't do half the content in the game right now. So unless it has it's own form of provoke, I'm gonna say GLA and MRD based on bloodbath as I think DRK will likely be about hp drain. With GLA and THM being a possible option if dark Magic is a big part of it for swift and surecast to get drains off etc.

    Another possiblity is that with the expansion they are going to remove cross class restrictions for jobs and just let anyone take anything. yes this would make classes entirely obsolete but I think that's the direction they're going for. Besides they'd still have their 10 cross class spots.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 01-26-2015 at 05:54 AM.
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    The anonymity of the internet is what leads people to become jerks online.

    You could make a game where all you did was run through fields of flowers holding hands and you'd still get a guy telling you you're doing it wrong.

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    Everyone knows you skip through fields of flowers holding hands, running noobs need to go back to WoW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    Pretty sure DRK will have to cross from GLA or risk being obsolete, for one simple reason. Provoke. If DRK can't tank swap then it can't do half the content in the game right now. So unless it has it's own form of provoke, I'm gonna say GLA and MRD based on bloodbath as I think DRK will likely be about hp drain. With GLA and THM being a possible option if dark Magic is a big part of it for swift and surecast to get drains off etc.

    Another possiblity is that with the expansion they are going to remove cross class restrictions for jobs and just let anyone take anything. yes this would make classes entirely obsolete but I think that's the direction they're going for. Besides they'd still have their 10 cross class spots.
    There is always the posibility that DK does obtain it own version of Provoke if it does not obtain GLA cross-skills but with a unique twist in how it works while still making it viable for Tank Swapping with other tanks. While it would be easy to just slap in GLA cross-skills for all new Tank Jobs. It would just be a cheap lazy way of doing things which would result in all Tanks, current and future, to always have GLA cross-skills.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 01-26-2015 at 07:29 AM.

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    Mini Boss
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    Lancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    Dark Knight - Marauder and ----

    Machinist - Archer and Pugilist

    Astrologian - Conjurer and Arcanist
    Well, since this game is trying so hard to be Final Fantasy 4 junior, I'd say: Dark Knight is Gladiator and Lancer, after all that Cecil goodie two shoes is Dark Knight/Paladin, and Blood 4 Blood fits perfectly with the nature of Dark Knight.

    Machinist would be Archer and Rogue since the devs keep on saying Machinists are suppose to be agile.

    And I can't see a healing class without Swiftcast, but I can see one without stoneskin, also Archanist fits the vibe of Astrologist more than Conjurer so Astrologist I'd say Thaumaturge and Archanist.
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    Last edited by thunderbreak; 01-26-2015 at 08:01 AM.

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    Alvis Yune
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    Fisher Lv 70
    I'm actually expecting them to up the number of classes each job can pull from to 3 in the expansion. If nothing else, every class is going to have another slot to cross-class a skill in but some classes barely have enough to fill 5 as is (WHM...) nevermind five actually really desirable choices, so yeah. I also expect a minimum of newly introduced skills post 50 so I don't really expect any new cross classes to show from there.
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    Last edited by Garlyle; 01-26-2015 at 10:15 AM.

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    Blue Thunder
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    Quote Originally Posted by Garlyle View Post
    I'm actually expecting them to up the number of classes each job can pull from to 3 in the expansion. If nothing else, every class is going to have another slot to cross-class a skill in but some classes barely have enough to fill 5 as is (WHM...) nevermind five actually really desirable choices, so yeah. I also expect a minimum of newly introduced skills post 50 so I don't really expect any new cross classes to show from there.
    Also expecting them to add a 3rd choice of class cross-skill. PLD and WAR could benefit a lot from being able to choose Keen Flurry from Lancers as an example.
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    C'alih Tia
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueThunder View Post
    Also expecting them to add a 3rd choice of class cross-skill. PLD and WAR could benefit a lot from being able to choose Keen Flurry from Lancers as an example.
    Not to mention Invigorate... Until you can see other party members' TP on the party list, having a personal source of extra TP would be invaluable, as you can't always spare the time to type a request... if you even have a nin/brd in the party.
    (TBH, I wish they'd make the TP recovering items usable outside of PVP as well... It just makes things unbalanced -- mages have items to provide them with more skill/spell use, but TP-using classes don't?)
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