Why not abolish the Class system entirely in favor of Jobs? [@ Devs]

[syntaxlies]

And Yoshi wanted class individuality himself, he thought it was hard to tell them apart as well. (Just saying it wasnt just players).

Correct, but it was a large part of the player poll which is what I meant

[Shougun]

Correct, but it was a large part of the player poll which is what I meant

Yeah I got you, just thought people should know it wasnt like a mass bitch and SE is like ugh ok fine we do what you want.

It was a yeah we agree with you players its kinda bad.

( I dont care for the difference but I know some people are like SE's way or the highway )

[GodseijuroHiko]

No, actually it was changed because the players complained about it. That's why it has many more limitations now. Skills were like pokemon, gotta catch them all to make one good class. This made every class feel the same which was bad.

Oh right, I remember that. It's really been two years huh? Back when people were complaining they needed multiple 50s to be good at anything. Man, just remembering it has me thinking of how much of a hott mess it was.

[syntaxlies]

Oh right, I remember that. It's really been two years huh? Back when people were complaining they needed multiple 50s to be good at anything. Man, just remembering it has me thinking of how much of a hott mess it was.

Remember guild traits, needed almost all them too

[GodseijuroHiko]

Remember guild traits, needed almost all them too

Lol, I still remember Thaum being a better tank than gla!

I'm keeping a good bit of faith in the upcoming battle system. Yoshi's on a roll.

[syntaxlies]

Lol, I still remember Thaum being a better tank than gla!

I'm keeping a good bit of faith in the upcoming battle system. Yoshi's on a roll.

If you didn't have the acher trait you would run sooooo slow with your weopon out. On leves you would have to go into passive mode to run so you wouldn't fall behind,lol

[GodseijuroHiko]

If you didn't have the acher trait you would run sooooo slow with your weopon out. On leves you would have to go into passive mode to run so you wouldn't fall behind,lol

I think that was the lancer trait and yea, the running speed was the cause of many deaths!

[syntaxlies]

I think that was the lancer trait and yea, the running speed was the cause of many deaths!

oh yea, it was the archer that got the ability

[Jynx]

Well didn't you read what I said? I said the idea and concept of the Armory System is great, but it had poor execution.

Personally I don't see any way to implement the Armory system well without it causing either massive restrictions, or massive homogony.

Classes at launch were "Jack of all trades" for everything it made the meele/mage classes boil down to not being able to do much unique. Now that they adressed the uniqueness with jobs the class system is hampering that very direction directly, you can't do it half way or both systems will just feel half baked.

[Velhart]

Personally I don't see any way to implement the Armory system well without it causing either massive restrictions, or massive homogony.

Classes at launch were "Jack of all trades" for everything it made the meele/mage classes boil down to not being able to do much unique. Now that they adressed the uniqueness with jobs the class system is hampering that very direction directly, you can't do it half way or both systems will just feel half baked.

I don't see how they will do it either, but hey, I guess that is why I don't work for SE. I'm sure their lead battle programmers have come up with something that works out well and helps you keep better management of balance in classes/jobs.