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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    You're not very good at this humor thing are you? Don't dish it out if you cant take it.

    Gutting the lore of the story is not an answer. Arcanist and carbuncle says classes are going nowhere. The main site's pages on classes says they are going nowhere. Achievements and quests that are still attainable says classes are going nowhere.

    And they all have lore explaining the events of the world around their cities, and also a starting point to the adventurer's story. Whole npc lives and organizations are built around the guilds.

    To put the adventurer as independent of all this makes them an alien instead of a resident. Some anomaly of the game world that is detached from its society and lore. That's not you get investment into a character's story.

    Now can your insinuations.
    I think I get what you're saying. Classes do have a lot to do with the story. Changing all that would mean rebuilldng an already established lore from the ground up. Still, I wonder if there's a way to do all this and everyone get what they want. Probably not, lol. I think the FFT job suggestion was interesting, though...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    I think I get what you're saying. Classes do have a lot to do with the story. Changing all that would mean rebuilldng an already established lore from the ground up. Still, I wonder if there's a way to do all this and everyone get what they want. Probably not, lol. I think the FFT job suggestion was interesting, though...
    There is not. The development team has way more important things to do than rebuilding the whole system, and rewriting large portions of the lore over something that is really nothing else than a technicality.

    I'm actually amazed that anyone would suggest that. The introduction of jobs and the seventh umbral era storyline created enough inconsistencies by themselves, we can really do without adding more.
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    Last edited by Abriael; 11-29-2012 at 06:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    I think I get what you're saying. Classes do have a lot to do with the story. Changing all that would mean rebuilldng an already established lore from the ground up. Still, I wonder if there's a way to do all this and everyone get what they want. Probably not, lol. I think the FFT job suggestion was interesting, though...
    * Hyur hugging self emote commences... *

    It can slide into the lore easily since you wouldnt be removing things.. just re-titling. Making new 1-35 levels for each adv. job would take a lot of work though (part of the upper end of jobs is already fleshed out.. the lower end is not at all).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    * Hyur hugging self emote commences... *

    It can slide into the lore easily since you wouldnt be removing things.. just re-titling. Making new 1-35 for each job would take a lot of work though.
    Only that people already played that lore. Re-titling would be an immense retcon, and several parts of the lore are based upon things that simply do not fit jobs.

    There are whole areas of the ul-dah story that are based over thaumaturges and their temple. Those do not, in any way or form, fit black mages, that have nothing to do with religion, death or burial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Doesn't really matter, does it? You feel entitled to insult others as you admitted yourself, but it seems to get your underwear in a bunch when it's not convenient for you.



    You should feel kind of bad about the fact that you continue to attack others on a personal level.
    Now that it's proven you talk witout knowing what the heck is even going on, it doesn't matter? lol I'm sorry, kid. But it's too late.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    Only that people already played that lore. Re-titling would be an immense retcon, and several parts of the lore are based upon things that simply do not fit jobs.

    There are whole areas of the ul-dah story that are based over thaumaturges and their temple. Those do not, in any way or form, fit black mages, that have nothing to do with religion, death or burial.
    I never said remove THM. Perhaps you think that the OP suggestion is what I was suggesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkyeWindbinder View Post
    Now that it's proven you talk witout knowing what the heck is even going on, it doesn't matter? lol I'm sorry, kid. But it's too late.


    If only people "lost" just because you say, so, isn't it?

    Keep wishing "kid".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    * Hyur hugging self emote commences... *

    It can slide into the lore easily since you wouldnt be removing things.. just re-titling. Making new 1-35 levels for each adv. job would take a lot of work though (part of the upper end of jobs is already fleshed out.. the lower end is not at all).
    Hmmm... Perhaps some new lore can be introduced into ARR that tes things together... I don't know. If it was ever to be done, Yoshi would find a way to do it. It would take quite a lot of work tooling it in, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shougun View Post
    I never said remove THM. Perhaps you think that the OP suggestion is what I was suggesting.
    I understand what you mean, but the change you suggest simply doesn't fit the lore, as the blm story is deeply ingrained within the Thaumaturge story.

    Also, you're suggesting a *massive* increase to the grind involved in the game, and the sole idea is honestly staggeringly bad.
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    Player SkyeWindbinder's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abriael View Post
    If only people lost just because you say, so, isn't it?

    Keep wishing "kid"
    If only you knew what you were talking about before typing your gibberish. You wouldn't embarass yourself so.

    Keep going! I'm enjoying this! lol You're perfect for making me feel superior.

    P.S.: It's refreshing that you've stopped QQing about alpha, at least. New song, same ol dance! lol XD
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