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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    Cecil ruthlessly murdered Mysidians in the first 10 minutes of Final Fantasy IV.
    Amarant Coral was a vagabond and hired assassin in Final Fantasy IX.

    Does anyone else want to give their shot at correlating jobs with character traits and completely negate the possibility that there are individuals behind each playable character?
    Cecil was a dark knight at that point and had to atone for it, becoming a paladin. It's beside the point anyway.

    The point wasn't that people can't do their own thing, but that a congregation of those jobs would be focused on something different. A single monk may become a gambler, but as an order they would be focused on spirituality, not running a gambling hall. See the difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    Cecil was a dark knight at that point and had to atone for it, becoming a paladin. It's beside the point anyway.

    The point wasn't that people can't do their own thing, but that a congregation of those jobs would be focused on something different. A single monk may become a gambler, but as an order they would be focused on spirituality, not running a gambling hall. See the difference?
    .. and Amarant? By the logic proposed, Amarant as a character shouldn't/can't exist. Final Fantasy V introduced the job system and any character could be anything. The point still stands.

    There's also nothing keeping them from separating them in that sense from a lore perspective. Pugilists wanting to atone. Gladiators putting aside their coliseum training. If I remember correctly you'll still need to unlock the jobs, you'll just be of the same level as your class when you do. Nothing needs to be rewritten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    There's also nothing keeping them from separating them in that sense from a lore perspective. Pugilists wanting to atone. Gladiators putting aside their coliseum training. If I remember correctly you'll still need to unlock the jobs, you'll just be of the same level as your class when you do. Nothing needs to be rewritten.
    /facepalm

    Re-read my original post, which is about exactly what you're saying. They can't replace the classes with jobs like the OP is suggesting because they'd also need to replace some of the guilds with ones that match jobs. They can add jobs to the existing system (and are) just fine because they don't require that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    .. and Amarant? By the logic proposed, Amarant as a character shouldn't/can't exist. Final Fantasy V introduced the job system and any character could be anything. The point still stands.
    He's included in the rest of the explanation. There is no large group of people working as assassins-for-hire but calling themselves "monks" in the world of FFIX. He's a single guy, and you're right, he can do whatever he wants with his monk training.

    Your "point" is both correct and utterly irrelevant to what I said, which is about the OP's suggestion to replace classes with jobs and how the guilds (not individuals in those guilds) would not fit.
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    Last edited by Tsukino; 08-21-2011 at 06:14 AM.