The hunt solution: scaling HP (used in GW2 and WoW already...)

[Alexander_Dragonfang]

They have already boosted hunt hp as much as they are going to since they were implemented. Its not something they expected the whole server to zerg at once so if you miss it oh well move on to the next.

They didn`t expect it. But one will thought they will have learned what happens to Hunts when reward is too convinient.

We had the same troubles months ago. Now SE is setting a really bad trend of "low" and "high" hunt seasons between patches, where hunts will mostly dissapear and hunts will again overload the PF... If hunts were a properly made system and not a sorry excuse to bring players to area maps, this could be evaded altogether.

[Duelle]

WoW kind of stole the party finder from FFXIV but they improved it and made it cross server. Now if only SE could make a cross server party finder.

They'd have to make zones cross-realm/server first.

[Hyunckel]

I'm surprised FF isn't using this...

The premise is simple: when a hunt mob is being attacked by 10 players, it has enough HP for those players to kill it in 2 minutes.

When the same mob is being attacked by 100 players, it gains enough HP that it will take those players 2 minutes to kill it.

Final Fantasy 14 already uses a similar system with FATEs... If ten people go to a FATE the next time it will spawn it will have increased HP, even if you're solo.

[AxelDH]

The hunt marks HP should probably be boosted one way or another, at least to account for the fact that hunters are typically 20+ item levels higher than the last time hunts were being zerged like this.

[Accolade]

Doesnt this happen in fates already? Like more people = more mobs or something.
The difference is fates have a set "area" so its was probably easier to programme based on the the amount of people within the small fate area.
Whereas regular mobs do not have this luxury to work with. (stab in the dark, im not technical at all)

My honest advice for Hunt is:
Go do life for a month.
When you come back people will be crying about something else and hunt will be irrelevant.
You do not NEED the 130 gear NOW, and it will be much easier to get soon.

[Set-Abominae]

you say that as if i didn't experience hunts the first time around i know but the lesson you think they should have learned isn't relevant since this is their standard operating procedure and is working as intended

[RichardButte]

you say that as if i didn't experience hunts the first time around i know but the lesson you think they should have learned isn't relevant since this is their standard operating procedure and is working as intended

Sometimes developers don't take action until enough people complain over a long enough period of time.

In fact, that's usually how change happens in MMOs...

"It's a year later and people are still complaining? I guess we'd better look into it after all..."

[MilesSaintboroguh]

The devs already had spoken up about it back when 2.3 launched. Yoshida said they don't want to just resort to beefing up marks' HP because then they become something like Odin/Behemoth that requires that many players to kill and he doesn't want to make hunts become just that. Again, it don't seem likely that there will be any change and any temporary changes now is going to be wasted efforts once people stop hunting. Perhaps hunts are done differently on non English servers, I dunno.

[SendohJin]

the Hunt solution is selling Carbontwine and Carboncoat with Wolf Marks.

[RichardButte]

The devs already had spoken up about it back when 2.3 launched. Yoshida said they don't want to just resort to beefing up marks' HP because then they become something like Odin/Behemoth that requires that many players to kill and he doesn't want to make hunts become just that. Again, it don't seem likely that there will be any change and any temporary changes now is going to be wasted efforts once people stop hunting. Perhaps hunts are done differently on non English servers, I dunno.

Scaling ≠ beefing up HP

Scaling makes the mob have an appropriate amount of HP for the number of players trying to kill it, thus raising or lowering it to the challenge at hand.

Even with only 10 people, an A rank has never been like Odin or Behemoth and never will be, even with scaling.