How to handle/investigate RMT in FC?

[BiBi___]

This guy with no crafting classes, buys up i110 battle gear for his bard, asks me to meld it. I asked him where his gil came from, he said his friend played since 1.0, then I push the name of his friend out of him. What should I ask this friend of his, when I see him online?

P.S. Also can't RMT gil buyers come up with better stories? I always hear this "friend" story.

edit: Anyone have methods or previous experience, of finding out whether a player has gotten their gil through regular gameplay, or illegitimate means? If the latter, we can boot them from FC and slip a note to SE.

[Titor]

I mean, on my server you can definitely make enough gil without having a crafting or gathering class.

[Atmora]

I mean there are plenty of ways to make money besides crafting

[Ghishlain]

I made 12m doing casual MBing in 2.1 with making very little use of any crafting. Its possible.

Can't assume all people with 0 crafts don't know how to make Gil. They just have less options to make it.

[Laerad3993]

You can make millions a week off Gardening and Chocobo fruits. I'll tell you right now, I have next to nothing maxed out craft wise, and can pump out 2-5m a week JUST off doing hunts and buying those fruit seeds with seals.

[BiBi___]

But this person straight said, he got his gil from someone else.....

[Stihllodeing]

Well kudos to you for being aware and mindful to begin with.

Also, maybe they did get it from a friend. Their future attitude and displays of character will tell you the real story in time.

[SCUBA_Instr]

Hi,
Last month we discovered one of our FC members was running
as a gathering-bot, in the tunnel near quarry. Character was
active, no reply to anything in the chat box, was doing the
movement between waypoints, the "bot jump,"
and running for nearly 24 hours at a time with no interruptions.
It didn't take long to discharge him from the FC.

He was running his main (or only) character as a part-time,
or "recreational," or "casual" bot or whatever the terminology
is supposed to be.

I can name a few FC's that are dedicated to casual botting
and having a mixture of real players and bots.

Then there are the professional RMT [closed] FCs consisting of
a level-1 GLD and 7 level-50 identical Thaumaturges or BLMs.

I feel that having a RMT buyer or bot owner in
a FC will jeapordize the FC if SE were to audit the gil trail.

[Laerad3993]

But this person straight said, he got his gil from someone else.....

It's likely he bought it. You'll never know though without him actually admitting it. One of my friends gets Gil from me, not tens of millions, but enough to play and enjoy himself. So it's not completely out of the ordinary. Why does it bother you so much? Just curious is all.

[BiBi___]

Why does it bother you so much? Just curious is all.

We don't want our FC to associate with any RMT / botters/ cheats/ hacks.
- bad FC rep
- getting in trouble with SE

and this following one is just personal opinion (not view of our FC),
- undermines the legitimacy of progress by all FC members.

Also, maybe they did get it from a friend. Their future attitude and displays of character will tell you the real story in time.

Yes definitely! We have had some players in the past who just "flaunt" their gil around, raising red flags. This person succumbed to pressure, and told their IRL friends that he bought gil. Those IRL friends of his, later tattle-tail'd on him, so we were able to get him kicked.

Its the attitude, more so than the gil or principle for me. It is that these cheats are consummate liars, and will most likely lie their way out of situations again in the future.

edit: Just personal opinion, I see both sides of the coin. ie. Why bother spending the time to "hate" someone for buying gil, just play your own game.