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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    Oh yeah, I almost forgot that they said we will be able to run it with our own npc party.
    But then comes the question how will it work and how will these NPCs be adjusted to help players progress through old content like Extreme, Crystal Tower, and Coil.

    places like Extreme and Coil are not the content for ignoring mechanics and NPCs are not well known for their ability to perform mechanics but only to perform very high damage and tank a lot of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    But then comes the question how will it work and how will these NPCs be adjusted to help players progress through old content like Extreme, Crystal Tower, and Coil.

    places like Extreme and Coil are not the content for ignoring mechanics and NPCs are not well known for their ability to perform mechanics but only to perform very high damage and tank a lot of things.
    In guild wars 1 well equipped henchmen were better than most players, especially the healers. But I don't believe devs can make that good AI. I mean... don't take me wrong I love FFXIV, I just don't think it will work that well with primals, maybe it will be implemented only for dungeons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    In guild wars 1 well equipped henchmen were better than most players, especially the healers. But I don't believe devs can make that good AI. I mean... don't take me wrong I love FFXIV, I just don't think it will work that well with primals, maybe it will be implemented only for dungeons.
    Well they could create a separate mode version for the EX Primal, Crystal Tower, and Coil that is adjusted to take into factor players are soloing this content with NPCs.

    In a simple term making it called Story Mode where the only thing gained from this type of thing is the storyline of these contents while the rewards for the normal version with a full party of players remain out of these Story Modes.
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    I'd say a full loot table where all available drops will be shown and you can only pick one to take with you. This is a great idea for getting people back into old content when xpac goes live, and no I'm not salty for never being able to get my HA tank chest or losing it to another tank just because I happened to be a dps when it dropped more than five times. This has nothing to do with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marxam View Post
    I'd say a full loot table where all available drops will be shown and you can only pick one to take with you. This is a great idea for getting people back into old content when xpac goes live, and no I'm not salty for never being able to get my HA tank chest or losing it to another tank just because I happened to be a dps when it dropped more than five times. This has nothing to do with it.
    It is quite a nice idea but wouldn't this encourage people to run it a few times and never come back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    It is quite a nice idea but wouldn't this encourage people to run it a few times and never come back?
    Its hit or miss. People will either:

    a) Keep farming for glamour or another class because they know they are guaranteed a drop that they want.
    b) Only farm what they want and move on.

    I myself would fall into the category of B just because I've cleared it countless times but can never get the tank chest. However if new players know that they are guaranteed a drop they want they can keep farming it. Plus I'm sure coil stuff will be used for desynths so people will farm it for that one drop over and over again.
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    havent they already made a ton of mechanics in the game rely on doing recycled content,
    We best have new dungeons 50-60 if we are shelling out dollars.

    Reconfigure the current over 50 ones to be done while leveling 1-50.
    so we have more than 1 dungeons every 4 levels
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    Dem'uba Aura
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    I think solo party can only work in dungeon.

    My idea is that 4 contents will be solo with the help of npcs. 8 man party will be reduce to 4.

    Or something nice will be 4 contents reduce to 2 : you and your chocobo. 8 contents will be done by 4 ppl and their chocobos.
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    Abzoluut Abzoluut
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    Well one thing is for sure ( at least I hope so), going from 50-60, I hope Yoshi-P understands that at this point of the game, we don't need " easy content" anymore.
    Yoshi-P, unfortunately, already announced 3.0 will be new-to-MMO-player friendly.

    I highly doubt we will see the things you listed. It goes a bit further than harder content imo. Jobs and stats should have more depth. It would add so much for "veteran" players. I hope the no base class for new jobs in an indication they will try. I think they finally accepted that the current job system limits them too much when they want to create interesting gear/jobs.

    Let's wait and hope!
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    Fenseven Ithecih
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    I"m sure people will be speed running some of the 50 dungeons once the lvl cap is lifted to be the 1st to lvl 60. How much exp you think brayflox HM will give? doing 6-7 min full runs or just the 1st 2 bosses for the mass of trash pulls.
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