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  1. #21
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    Mirakumi's Avatar
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    Lady Zelda
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 92
    The thing is I could only explain so much. I don't really pay attention to what the Tank should be doing on the fight but now after this I am watching everything because I feel like this was a big eye-opener. I feel like tanks get too cranky. lol
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  2. #22
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    Wintersandman's Avatar
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    Winter Sandman
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by VanilleFang View Post
    Haha... what? No. It is everyone's. Seriously, this is pathetic. Just because you don't want to type doesn't mean you can sit there and go "Welp, the tank never told them. Not my fault." (you are basically saying this, by saying its the tanks job) Its is everyone's fault if some one new doesn't know what to do. Seriously.
    Haha, someone got a little sensitive. Thanks for being overdramatic and assuming words and faults.

    There are mechanics in every fight that every role should be aware of. A dps and healers should know why the tanks have to swap. The tanks should be aware of the mechanics that dps have to deal with. I believe every tank should take a dps and healer through Titan. A tank yelling "Why can't you guys dodge" to new people in Titan, just means he most likely can't empathize or is to elitist.

    To say to someone it doesn't effect my role so I don't need to know is honestly selfish.

    BTW Lets get some more anger in here. Obviously my tank statement offended half the people in this post.
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  3. #23
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    Antonar Avanti
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    Famfrit
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
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    I don't find your statement wrong, just a bit misguided. It IS nice for a role in any dungeon, raid or instance, to know what the other roles have to deal with. It allows the healer know what heals should they prepare to do next for certain situations, it allows the DPS to know where they should be mitigating most of their damage, and it allows the tanks to know who to pull enmity from.That information most times isn't necessary to have on your mind as a single role, but it truly helps, and it can make or break the difference between a team that can finish a dungeon in 30 minutes, between a team that needs the entire dungeon time to get it done.
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  4. #24
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    Antonar Avanti
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    Famfrit
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    It is also nice to know what all classes and jobs are capable of because you can immediately figure out which of the moves of your current class/job can catalyze with the move your party member used, thereby increasing damage, healing efficiency, etc. but once again that info is a plus, and isn't a necessity. (I try to know as much as possible and learn things as I go along)

    It's not necessary, but it'll help you get the job done more efficiently.
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  5. #25
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    Winter Sandman
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Antwan View Post
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    Maybe they don't have to play the role but they should at least ask what it is like. I am a tank and I have a monk in the party. Why does that monk care if I continuously spin the mob or not. Ranged and heals don't care. But that monk would prefer if I keep that mob as still as possible.

    Or the ask the healer why they get so upset when I run off without buffs. Because you know.... it makes everyone breathe a tad bit easier if I have stoneskin when I am speed running or doing a large pull. Why? because 2 seconds can make a difference.
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    Last edited by Wintersandman; 01-27-2015 at 08:06 AM.

  6. #26
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    Almalexia's Avatar
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    Almalexia Indoril
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    Hyperion
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    I don't like when people spoil a first-time encounter for me, so I won't do them the disservice either.

    That said, "I'm new" shouldn't be a license to play like a jackass.
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  7. #27
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    Thunda_Cat_SMASH's Avatar
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    Sylvana Tenebri
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 79
    I hate it when first time encounters, outside of the Coil, are spoiled for me, but that's generally because I'm quick enough to pick up on mechanics and figure out what each role needs to deal with individually. That being said, if someone says they are new, then I'll ask if they want spoilers or not, and if not, I'll answer any questions they may have once the last boss is dealt with.
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    Buff Archer
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    Summoner Lv 60
    A Scholar at WoD made me laugh this week, after a lot of people got OSK'd by the first boss (which I think was designed to weed out the rage quitters early on) they started shouting in Alliance chat- "Have you people not done this before?". Hmm well since its been out less than a week and half the alliance got OSK'd, I'd venture to guess that Yes, many of them actually hadn't done that one before.
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