The interesting boiling point

[Mirakumi]

I find it interesting when I join a dungeon and there's a dead thickness in silence even after the first hellos. If someone claims they are new, one or two people, usually me or some other kind fellow or lass will offer their advice once they get to the boss.


But then after a few wipes and that one other individual who was deadly silent the whole dunegon - suddenly goes into a crazy madman mode.

Frustration, resentment, calling names, and now suddenly they are offering advice on how to do the fight. While their finger, I imagine, must be now hovering over the vote to kick or abandon dungeon.


I just find this particularly amusing. If this person was going to get mad - why not offer the advice sooner than waiting for the frustration to hit. The cracking of the keyboard keys I assume gives them a rush. I always approach the person with this and I get cursed out or belittled for catering to babies. [The new folks]

I just don't understand how people can get frustrated at the situation when they didn't lift a hand when they read over, "I'm new," in their chat log. It would be awesome if there weren't any wipes, and occasionally some people watch the "video."

I just don't think the boiling point should ever happen, unless you made the attempts to help before the engagement and that person refused to co-operate.

Perhaps I'm just being sentimental, after all I was new too at some point. Especially since the patch for the new dungeons just came out... lol

[Tayolynn]

I've only been seeing this kind of scenario.

Me: Hey, just letting you guys know this is my first time.
Everyone else: *silence*
*enemies are pulled*
*wipe*
Agitated people: Really guys? Why didn't anyone... *insert late advice here*
Me: Was I typing IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN?

[Wintersandman]

I am the silent type but that is because I play on PS4 and don't always want a keyboard in my lap. I let others give advice since someone is always faster to the keyboard or I am not the tank and it is the tanks job (leader and all that jazz). Unless I can only add on will I get out the keyboard but it is never out of frustration.

Don't get me wrong there are rude people but typing with a PS4 controller is clunky.

[Yumi_umi]

Iearned how to type as a healer cuz we can get away with it.
Typin on ps3 controller is tough if ur not used to it. I have gotten used to it so i\\'m not too slow and can type even in intensive movement fights like t5 or titan.
On topic tho ppl r probably silent cuz
- they r just wanting to get it done
( quick clean run )
- they can\\'t speak ur language
( won\\'t use auto translate )
- they are talking to other ppl
( Ls or FC chat )
- they just don\\'t want to in general

[Yumi_umi]

Being new in this game gets u skewered but being new to ur job in a high level instance that requires u to know how to play ur role is another story.
* tank runs sastasha hm, wears high allagan gear and wep. But doesn\\\\'t know how to tank simple mobs efficiently. I call them out and what do you know, its a dps who rolled tank with loot they got from farming.
Technically the only time i chat is when funny stuff happens in the run, when learnig boss mechanics/ helping ppl or just for the hello and gj at the end. Also the exception of calling out ppl who don\\\\'t know how to do their job ( the painful days of pharos pre nerf where tanks would derp and dps would be low ) = possible healers rage quitting = me joining in progress :3

[Noahlimits]

I've only been seeing this kind of scenario.

Me: Hey, just letting you guys know this is my first time.
Everyone else: *silence*
*enemies are pulled*
*wipe*
Agitated people: Really guys? Why didn't anyone... *insert late advice here*
Me: Was I typing IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN?

Maybe you should be more specific? I've been in a fight the first time but already knew the mechanics from videos or reddit. Just because it's someone's first time doesn't mean they don't know how the fight works. You see it all the time in primals.

[Wintersandman]

Maybe you should be more specific? I've been in a fight the first time but already knew the mechanics from videos or reddit. Just because it's someone's first time doesn't mean they don't know how the fight works. You see it all the time in primals.

Actually any concerned individual should next ask "Do you know the fight". Sorry but if someone says I am new then I assume they don't know squat.

[Teveriel]

I often raise my brows at how antisocial many people seem to be in what is, by design, a pretty social game. It's unnerving to me.

[Snugglebutt]

In middle of fights and running between parts it is very understandable people are not chatting about the weather or random stuff to fill the silence.

Personally I am okay with just saying hello to people at the start to create a more friendly atmosphere for the run then only talking when see someone making some major mistakes (be very polite and explain the mechanics of the part where people are messing up on, not making the other player the target of negativity but instead helping them better understand the fight) or explaining fight before each boss battle begins if someone said they were new to the place.

Other than saying hello at start and explaining fight if someone says they new I tend to be quiet and see nothing wrong with that during a run given in most cases your in DF so it's cross-world gathering of players who you might not see again in which case bonding with them long term seems pointless.

[EZ5902]

Maybe you should be more specific? I've been in a fight the first time but already knew the mechanics from videos or reddit. Just because it's someone's first time doesn't mean they don't know how the fight works. You see it all the time in primals.

Not everyone watches video's.... i never watched any because that would spoil the fun, and personally learning from wipes is the best part.