The interesting boiling point

[Mirakumi]

I find it interesting when I join a dungeon and there's a dead thickness in silence even after the first hellos. If someone claims they are new, one or two people, usually me or some other kind fellow or lass will offer their advice once they get to the boss.


But then after a few wipes and that one other individual who was deadly silent the whole dunegon - suddenly goes into a crazy madman mode.

Frustration, resentment, calling names, and now suddenly they are offering advice on how to do the fight. While their finger, I imagine, must be now hovering over the vote to kick or abandon dungeon.


I just find this particularly amusing. If this person was going to get mad - why not offer the advice sooner than waiting for the frustration to hit. The cracking of the keyboard keys I assume gives them a rush. I always approach the person with this and I get cursed out or belittled for catering to babies. [The new folks]

I just don't understand how people can get frustrated at the situation when they didn't lift a hand when they read over, "I'm new," in their chat log. It would be awesome if there weren't any wipes, and occasionally some people watch the "video."

I just don't think the boiling point should ever happen, unless you made the attempts to help before the engagement and that person refused to co-operate.

Perhaps I'm just being sentimental, after all I was new too at some point. Especially since the patch for the new dungeons just came out... lol

[Tayolynn]

I've only been seeing this kind of scenario.

Me: Hey, just letting you guys know this is my first time.
Everyone else: *silence*
*enemies are pulled*
*wipe*
Agitated people: Really guys? Why didn't anyone... *insert late advice here*
Me: Was I typing IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN?

[Noahlimits]

I've only been seeing this kind of scenario.

Me: Hey, just letting you guys know this is my first time.
Everyone else: *silence*
*enemies are pulled*
*wipe*
Agitated people: Really guys? Why didn't anyone... *insert late advice here*
Me: Was I typing IN ANCIENT EGYPTIAN?

Maybe you should be more specific? I've been in a fight the first time but already knew the mechanics from videos or reddit. Just because it's someone's first time doesn't mean they don't know how the fight works. You see it all the time in primals.

[Wintersandman]

Maybe you should be more specific? I've been in a fight the first time but already knew the mechanics from videos or reddit. Just because it's someone's first time doesn't mean they don't know how the fight works. You see it all the time in primals.

Actually any concerned individual should next ask "Do you know the fight". Sorry but if someone says I am new then I assume they don't know squat.

[EZ5902]

Maybe you should be more specific? I've been in a fight the first time but already knew the mechanics from videos or reddit. Just because it's someone's first time doesn't mean they don't know how the fight works. You see it all the time in primals.

Not everyone watches video's.... i never watched any because that would spoil the fun, and personally learning from wipes is the best part.

[Wintersandman]

I am the silent type but that is because I play on PS4 and don't always want a keyboard in my lap. I let others give advice since someone is always faster to the keyboard or I am not the tank and it is the tanks job (leader and all that jazz). Unless I can only add on will I get out the keyboard but it is never out of frustration.

Don't get me wrong there are rude people but typing with a PS4 controller is clunky.

[Sapphic]

it is the tanks job (leader and all that jazz). Unless I can only add on will I get out the keyboard but it is never out of frustration.

Don't get me wrong there are rude people but typing with a PS4 controller is clunky.

You do know there are mechanics other roles have to deal with that the tank never does? So leaving it solely for the tank to explain is not always a good option.

[Rasylia]

You do know there are mechanics other roles have to deal with that the tank never does? So leaving it solely for the tank to explain is not always a good option.

No offense, but if the tank doesnt know what the DPs have to fight with, he shouldnt really go into the specific dungeon/raid.
Im Maining Pld, and im always tanking my CT, ST, WoD whatever. Since im the one with the highes equip (usually) im the MT. Still, i know all the mechanics, and nearly every run im the one explaining the mechanics in the /a chat to all the firsttimers.

If, f.e. i die as a Main tank, and another tanks needs to tank, im more or less a dps in that fight. And i should really know what i ahve to do in that case, dont you think?

[Amelia_Pond_Behemoth]

No offense, but if the tank doesnt know what the DPs have to fight with, he shouldnt really go into the specific dungeon/raid.
Im Maining Pld, and im always tanking my CT, ST, WoD whatever. Since im the one with the highes equip (usually) im the MT. Still, i know all the mechanics, and nearly every run im the one explaining the mechanics in the /a chat to all the firsttimers.

If, f.e. i die as a Main tank, and another tanks needs to tank, im more or less a dps in that fight. And i should really know what i ahve to do in that case, dont you think?

Sure, this would be all well and good in full parties, but in dungeons, there are no other tanks. And battles look quite different depending on whether you're a tank, a melee dps, or a ranged dps. If a tank doesn't know everything about the fight, it at least gets the ball rolling for more social people to speak up and fill in the gaps that the tank left out for whatever reason.

[Rasylia]

Sure, this would be all well and good in full parties, but in dungeons, there are no other tanks. And battles look quite different depending on whether you're a tank, a melee dps, or a ranged dps. If a tank doesn't know everything about the fight, it at least gets the ball rolling for more social people to speak up and fill in the gaps that the tank left out for whatever reason.

Well, yes, dungeons dont have other tanks. Still, from my point of view, a tank should know the mechanics. All of them. But, thats maybe just me.