Trade-Spam During Hunts, a New Low

[Purrfectstorm]

Today I was spiritbonding in Urth's Gift with a full party and an A-rank appeared right beside us. I don't go out of my way to do hunts because the environment has become so toxic now that SE has unfortunately added endgame items to hunts (AGAIN). However, it was there and I figured why not?

So I switched to tank and my party switched jobs also. Then I pulled the hunt and we started fighting it. Well another party arrived and while their tank was trying to get hate from me another member began to trade spam me so I could not perform any actions. In the middle of this I blacklisted them so I could go back to fighting but I had lost a lot of valuable time. Thankfully our party got full credit but I felt like this was the most hostile action I've witnessed by another player during hunts. Is this the new norm?

I don't do hunting parties because players will wish "early pullers" (someone who pulls before they personally get there lol) cancer, herpes, death etc. (yes this is no exaggeration). Threats of reporting other players go out every time, name-calling, the kind of stuff that doesn't happen when hunts are limited to vanity, minions, mounts, crafting mats, and the like.

This thread is to ask SE 2 things:

1) Please limit future hunt rewards to non-locked out/endgame items.
2) But at the very least prevent opening trade windows with players who are in combat.

I think this is a pretty fair request.
Thanks

[Neuflune]

Regarding "early pullers", I only hate them if they cause a wipe. There are people like this in our server. They pull S ranks early just so their party can get full credits I suppose, but because they're not as great as they think they are, they die and people who are just coming in get picked off by the mob.

That said, trade-spam is low indeed. I agree that trade window should not be usable or TRADE should not be an option on an in-combat target.

[chrillix]

Don't really feel bad for you at all. Knowing the high interest in hunts right now, you and your group probably could have continued spirit bonding and waited a few minutes for other groups to arrive. Seems pretty selfish that you decided to pull it by yourself.

[Noahlimits]

Don't really feel bad for you at all. Knowing the high interest in hunts right now, you and your group probably could have continued spirit bonding and waited a few minutes for other groups to arrive. Seems pretty selfish that you decided to pull it by yourself.

If you find the mob you aren't obligated to wait for dozens of other people to show up to kill it, especially since there's no guarantee you'll get full credit if you do so. And harassing someone because they pulled a hunt is not acceptable and reportable.

[Ashkendor]

If you find the mob you aren't obligated to wait for dozens of other people to show up to kill it, especially since there's no guarantee you'll get full credit if you do so. And harassing someone because they pulled a hunt is not acceptable and reportable.

Happened to me yesterday. I found Kurrea while spiritbonding/farming and reported it to a hunt LS. Know what happened? A billion people showed up and nobody invited me to a party, so I got 4 seals for something I shared.

Next time I'll just grab a friend or 3 and take it on myself.

[MistyMew]

Happened to me yesterday. I found Kurrea while spiritbonding/farming and reported it to a hunt LS. Know what happened? A billion people showed up and nobody invited me to a party, so I got 4 seals for something I shared.

Next time I'll just grab a friend or 3 and take it on myself.

that is sad yup and ppl not getting invited has been an issue from day 1 of hunts which is why I still say soloers should get full credit...period.
starting ones own party is not realistic no matter how fast you can click and inv in most cases as mobs are normally dying too fast.

i always join pt early and stay in one to do hunts and enjoy that and the ppl very much, but if solo i announce and move on as full credit isn't an option
even to change to tank class and try by the time the silly abilities rest (bad idea se) the mob is mostly dead as well

as for op ....that is indeed low of them to trade spam...tacky tacky to do to anyone

[Altaeciana]

Some things that should be made known:

1. Report people who maliciously misuse game mechanics to interfere with others. Trade request prompts are designed in such a way that they are a ultimatum to ensure trade processes can be completed by bringing attention and focus to the process, almost undisturbed.

2. There is no set guideline on hunt etiquette in terms of fighting hunts, finding hunts, etc. While it is nice that people try to broaden the interest by making up fake rules and social mannerisms, it's a feature of the game. You and your party can take on the challenge however you want. It is not a form of griefing or malicious play in the sense as trade requests can be misused. Both fall in the category of "utilizing game features/mechanics however you want." But the difference is one is directly interfering while the other is indirectly.

3. Report every single occurrence that you were affected by. While it is unclear as to what level of penalization each reported individual is currently at based on account history, if your account shows a solid history of evidential harassment, Support Desk GMs should have a policy to better your situation in some way. So even if you think authorities won't do anything (or won't do enough), consider how it would look from the other side. "Oh look, this one person is being picked on by ALL of these others." Your latest harassers won't know what they're getting themselves into.

[Osmond]

If you find the mob you aren't obligated to wait for dozens of other people to show up to kill it, especially since there's no guarantee you'll get full credit if you do so. And harassing someone because they pulled a hunt is not acceptable and reportable.

I was thinking about that if that's against the ToS.

[Sadana]

If you find the mob you aren't obligated to wait for dozens of other people to show up to kill it, especially since there's no guarantee you'll get full credit if you do so.

SE would do well to change it to one hit = full credit. It's the scaled credit that is causing people to "pull early" and cuss out others. Need to buff the hp on hunt marks again, too.

[Purrfectstorm]

Don't really feel bad for you at all. Knowing the high interest in hunts right now, you and your group probably could have continued spirit bonding and waited a few minutes for other groups to arrive. Seems pretty selfish that you decided to pull it by yourself.

Just to be clear, the fact that I was spirit bonding doesn't make me a "spirit bonder" (as in: spirit bonding is not the only thing I do in this game). While I don't enjoy being part of the server wide chase for hunts, if one pops up right beside me like that I am going to kill it. I have a right to enjoy all the content in the game just as everyone else does and I'm under no obligation to share hunt information or wait for others. Doing that would only lead to the kind of toxic situation I was trying to avoid (i.e. people getting mad because they didn't get there in time and there are always some of those no matter how long you wait).

Regardless, trade spam should be considered cheating (you are keeping a player from performing any actions and they could die/lose credit for the fight). There is no way you can justify it. The most selfish player in the world still does not deserve to be cheated.

Edit: I'd also like to add that I did report the player and blacklist them and I will do the same to anyone else who does behavior like this.