Make relics the best weapons 100% time

[Umisame]

Relics should be the best weapons you could use 100% the time, not just 2-3 months every 6 months.

I think that an easy solution would be to make possible to get items to upgrade relics in two ways. Playing endgame(coil or whatever) and/or grinding. So hardcore people can get their relic upgrade earlier than casual ppl. Grinding method should have week cap so its not possible to get relic upgrade on the firsts weeks of the patch.

I would like to see special stats/buffs on relics for 3.0 like in FFXIV 1.0 or FFXI. Not just flat stats. I liked random dmg increase in relics in FFXI or special/unique buffs to your job with mythic weapon from FFXI too.

Gae Bolg FFXIV 1.0:
http://i.imgur.com/Rt40A.jpg

Also, it would be great to see rare armor with special stats too. Armor that is hard to get(just for difficulty, grinding or rare drop). Not need to add allways set armors.


FFXIV its very good MMO, just need some adjustments to make it perfect.


EDIT for clarification


One example:

New endgame patch has 4 turns.
You need to farm 30 Looking Forward Notes(LFN)
If you complete turn 3 then you get X LFN.
If you complete turn 4 then you get 2X LFN.
If you grind it doing IDK quest then you get Y per week.


People that just raid can get their relic faster than grinding, if you do raid+grind then you will be the very first because you are a hardcore machine. Grinding ppl eventually will get it without get burned. ALL HAPPY!

And if last turn drop weapons(same ilvl as relic but less powerfull because it has not special/unique buffs) they can equip their alters while they farm their first, second, third,.... all relics they want faster than everyone, because hardcores own eorzea with their epeen power OMFG

Time between fastest way possible and grind method is what we should discuss. I have no problem with raid ppl getting their epeen weapon some weeks or 1+ month before others.

[Spawnie]

if they did that then no1 would raid.. yoshi stated that a whiles back relics will always be 2nd best weapons in game behind raid weapons

i actually enjoy the long grind for relic in most cases occasionally ill get bored so ill work on somethin else for a while to recharge the batteries :3 gives more sense of accomplishment working for somethin that requires alot of effort in my opinion ;3

[Evangela]

the problem is... the "grinding" way isn't really for casuals. I don't think casuals want to spend too much times doing those boring stuffs.

[FyrmurlFloerasksyn]

It's sounds nice in theory, but the problem with special stat's on weapon/armour etc is that groups will pretty much require you to have those weapons for raiding etc.

[StrejdaTom]

I really think that the best weapons should always be from raiding. I raid myself but I never get to the last turns before the new relic comes still I think that people who are able to clear turns that fast should be rewarded more than others.

[Umisame]

I really think that the best weapons should always be from raiding. I raid myself but I never get to the last turns before the new relic comes still I think that people who are able to clear turns that fast should be rewarded more than others.

Thats why i said that grinding method should have a weekly cap. Raid groups could get their weapons upgraded some weeks earlier(or even 1+ month ) than "casuals".

[Kazza2003]

I like how relics are the only purple text/icon items in the whole game which should make them more rare and powerful, at least if you follow the FF history. Still they are always weaker than most weapons you can get in the new updates. I think that makes no sense at all. So either dye the text to blue or even green or make them really powerful. Seriously.

[Ginga_K]

They should make a Ultimate wpn which combines raid+relic wpn parts,
and only when wpn is 100% spiritbonded, wpn will then be at full potential.
with stats +20% more than any raid or relic wpns.

[Spawnie]

the problem is... the "grinding" way isn't really for casuals. I don't think casuals want to spend too much times doing those boring stuffs.

i only manage to get in a few hours a day due to every day responsibilities but im like 200ish lights away from nexus so it is possible.. considering how easy they make previous upgrades lol esiecally the lights since 2.5 patch u can get them way to fast now lol i was 700 away 2 days ago lol

[Andres_Lonegrief]

I really think that the best weapons should always be from raiding. I raid myself but I never get to the last turns before the new relic comes still I think that people who are able to clear turns that fast should be rewarded more than others.

Agreed.I'm a bit slow in progressing with raids too, but I do believe that people able to clear turns should get the best equipment.
Also to me it's hard to understand why getting the 2nd most powerful weapon is often a matter of luck.

At first, getting your relic required skill (if you weren't able to clear Titan HM, you couldn't have it) and it made sense to me. I know that not everybody are into primals ex and raids, but it's this type of contents that really requires a strong weapon. Right? I mean, if I am doing only dungeons and old content, I can perfectly do this with token-weapons or crafted weapon.

So far, I have really taken my time with the relic because of Atmas and the chances of failing a materia melding with alexandrite (that's another thing I don't understand: you spend millions of gills for a LV4 materia that you might even lose, to me it's just evil). If it was a matter of skill, I would accept not being able to upgrade my relic because I just wouldn't be good enough. Having to fight with my "lack of luck", which is something i cannot control, is frustrating.