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    TimelessShine's Avatar
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    Kise Kisaragi
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    Hunts are not scale :(

    Can we please give A ranks and S ranks more HP. Most people by now are ilvl100 and they could probably solo it with 8 people.
    Suggestions to fix it:
    1.GIVE HUNTS MORE HP
    2. PUT A PROTECTIVE SHIELD AROUND THE MONSTER so it does not get ninja pulled .
    Thanks
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    UltimateAoe2's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimelessShine View Post
    Can we please give A ranks and S ranks more HP. Most people by now are ilvl100 and they could probably solo it with 8 people.
    Suggestions to fix it:
    1.GIVE HUNTS MORE HP
    2. PUT A PROTECTIVE SHIELD AROUND THE MONSTER so it does not get ninja pulled .
    This idea makes me wanna say "wat".
    It's a "hunt" mob...like. Literally, you're hunting. You're not going to get every mark, and I'm sure everyone hasn't gotten every mark. There will be rouge players, because that's how it works in this world.
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    Kitty Softpaw
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    My idea to fix it, which would be a lot more effective in the long run: Make them similar to the Treasure Chest mobs. Find a certain spot, use a certain item that you can only get one of per period of time, the monster spawns, you and your party are the only ones who can fight it, and at the end you get your rewards and go on your merry way. No zerg rush, no 'Early Pulls', no hate and discontent over the entire server, people are getting full credit, fights can actually be balanced for the intended group size rather than having to be over-inflated to survive a full half minute of literally the entire server beating on it... Basically the only problem that doesn't fix is that people might actually have to wait a few days to get all i130 gear.

    So, naturally, I'm going to get flamed into oblivion for making a reasonable suggestion that would require people to have a little bit of actual patience. Instant Gratification Too Stronk, Please Nerf SE!

    Edit: Also, just went back and counted. I'm probably missing a few, but this makes the 6th topic complaining about Hunts in 2 days, five of which are still on the front page. It seems to me like maybe there's a problem here, but of course, SE refuses to admit they're wrong. /cheer, well done SE, way to instill me with confidence in your ability to manage open-world content. */totallynotsarcasm*
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    Last edited by DarkStar; 01-23-2015 at 01:57 PM.

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    When i say ninja pulled . I mean as in no one on the server knew the a rank was up but those players in that party. Not even the area knew it was up.
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    They're really not scaled at all. An overall increase in difficult for hunts is needed if they were to work properly, at least on high population servers, since I can't really say how the're currently doing on low pop servers. The time window between finding the mob and pulling it is already small, and the fact that they're burned quickly doesn't help that the hunts are only helpful to a lucky minority which happens to stumble on the mob or to be close. I surely hope for a fix soon, for hunts to be a viable option again.
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    Temisu Namisu
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    Kujata
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorugao View Post
    They're really not scaled at all. An overall increase in difficult for hunts is needed if they were to work properly,
    Hunts were originally designed to be tackled by smaller groups, not the entire server. You'd get a group, go out and hunt an enemy and defeat it. They were working "properly" in 2.4. But once again, someone decided that people just won't do the content they added in if there's no "acceptable" reward from it. So they threw in the upgrade items again.

    When the content was first announced, it sounded great. Then we saw the execution and I avoided it. It's not what I expected, and I dislike meaningless zergs. Then 2.4 comes, and the rewards are less (but still fine for me) and fewer people are involved. This was perfect. They were far more fun in 2.4 because they were done only by a few dedicated players. Come 2.5, and the same crap that happened in 2.3 is happening, except it's even worse than it was then.

    I'm all for trying to get people upgraded to catch up, but it's not quite catch up period just yet. I'd have left that for the last month before Heavensward is released. There's no need for i130 gear just yet, and I hate to feel obliged to have to join in the hunts to not affect my static group.

    Again, it's one of the worst decisions made.

    But the enemies don't need scaling up. The rewards need reducing (i.e. remove Carbontwine at least) so less people do them. Adding more HP just makes it harder if it happens to be quieter (like during non-prime time).
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    Mordex Bladeborne
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    I'm on jenova and our hunt scene is just toxic. We have a fc who finds or is some of the first to the hunts. Then they call it out and kill just so its dead when it shows up. Then makes fun of people who didn't get there in time. I'm all for people pulling them when they want if they find it but the intentional drama and trolling not so much.
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    Drivont O'raguille
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themis View Post
    Hunts were originally designed to be tackled by smaller groups, not the entire server. You'd get a group, go out and hunt an enemy and defeat it. They were working "properly" in 2.4. But once again, someone decided that people just won't do the content they added in if there's no "acceptable" reward from it. So they threw in the upgrade items again.
    I loved how they worked in 2.4! me and 4-6 of my friends would just go hunt down 3-5 A ranks a night, it was fun, challenging, and not just a zergfest! I miss that ; ;
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    Aislin Delhir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drivont View Post
    I loved how they worked in 2.4! me and 4-6 of my friends would just go hunt down 3-5 A ranks a night, it was fun, challenging, and not just a zergfest! I miss that ; ;
    It's entertaining trying to beat Dalvag's Final Flame with only 3 people. Tornado is legit.

    Hunts were definitely better off without endgame rewards, but they could have at least added additional casual avenues to get those rewards to mitigate the wild overcrowding. Maybe they think it's fun for everyone to be jerks to each other?
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    Eros Maxima
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruke View Post
    It's entertaining trying to beat Dalvag's Final Flame with only 3 people. Tornado is legit.

    Hunts were definitely better off without endgame rewards, but they could have at least added additional casual avenues to get those rewards to mitigate the wild overcrowding. Maybe they think it's fun for everyone to be jerks to each other?
    They just like to underestimate the rush mentality of the players. They need to watch some Black Friday Walmart videos or something, then transition that image to what the players are like when it comes to easy-to-do endgame upgrades. As someone who did a lot of Hunts prior to 2.5, very few from their initial launch, and only one since 2.5, the mayhem right now is enjoyable. It's like going on a safari adventure and running into territorial keyboard savages you never had a name for. "This is MY hunt!"
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    Last edited by Welsper59; 01-24-2015 at 08:58 AM.

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