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  1. #41
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    MistyMew's Avatar
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    Misty Mew
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Zophar View Post
    I really didn't mind the drop rate for my first two zodiacs. But this third one.... this third one, I have 2 dungeons left and have thus far spent double the time and effort on it than both of my previous zodiacs combined. I'm currently at an -average- of 15-20 runs per drop. My quickest drop for this weapon has been 7 runs, my worst has been around 50ish. Longest streak without seeing a single drop was well over 80 dungeons.

    Sometimes RNG giveth. Sometimes it taketh away.
    omg i'm just starting these quests and tbh that much bad rng...introduced AGAIN by se makes me question their intelligence. It actually such a bad design, you think they would have learned by now.

    not looking forward to rolling the dice again and again...my sympathies to all who have had exteme bad rng...its not right at all
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  2. #42
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    Brill_'s Avatar
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    Squires Ailith
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    I'm wondering how Yoshi thinks forcing us to run the same dungeon over and over again that we come to hate it is good for the game. Before I started this quest, there were some dungeons I liked, not anymore.
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  3. #43
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    Concreteman's Avatar
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    Concrete Man
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    Malboro
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    Fisher Lv 70
    My bane so far has been braflox. Haven't kept an exact count but feel like it over 30 I'm sure it's atleast more than 25. Took about 15-20 runs on amdapor keep (joy) all the rest were fairly easy tho I am 0/4 on stone vigil. I already hated that one from when it was expert roulette q and ran it like 20 consecutive days. I do agree that they should make all the dungeons for the quest accessible so your not stuck running 2 with bad rng just to unlock others.
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  4. #44
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    wicked-one's Avatar
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    Azul Earendil
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    Shiva
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 70
    Thats why it´s called RNG...
    Quote Originally Posted by Brill_ View Post
    I'm wondering how Yoshi thinks forcing us to run the same dungeon over and over again that we come to hate it is good for the game. Before I started this quest, there were some dungeons I liked, not anymore.
    I don´t think it´s a matter of an good idea or not, but it really get´s me thinking they got no better one...

    By datamining, speculations go for the next stage as a combination of rare items and spiritbonding (like Light-Farming before).

    So the worst of it - combined...

    I finally decided which second relic i spend my atmas at - mainly because i capped poetichs on wednesday and besides coil I hat nothing that brings me back playing - about the 4th book now, and i already think i should stop it already, focus only on my main class, and enjoy a lot of other games I own ^^

    I´m really courious how long that game keeps me going...
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    Last edited by wicked-one; 02-23-2015 at 04:54 PM.
    Never a mind was changed on an internet board, no matter how good your arguments are...

  5. #45
    Player aerolol's Avatar
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    Baron Eduardo
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Brill_ View Post
    I'm wondering how Yoshi thinks forcing us to run the same dungeon over and over again that we come to hate it is good for the game. Before I started this quest, there were some dungeons I liked, not anymore.
    This is true.
    I ran dungeons from roulettes every day before Zodiac. I enjoyed running them.

    Now it feels like a chore to do any dungeon roulette.
    I only do it once or twice a week now.
    Even the new dungeons (AK HM, WP HM, KotL), which are quite nicely designed... I just have no will to run them.
    I got my Zodiac a few months ago, but all the dungeon farm for random drops really ruined the whole dungeon experience for me.
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  6. #46
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    Alberel's Avatar
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    Alberel Lindurst
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by VirusChris View Post
    I agree! Having the drop rate increase little by little each time you failed to get said items from the dungeon would make it more tolerable. I wonder why no one has done this yet.
    It's called 'smart RNG' and Blizzard has already adopted it in Diablo 3. I fully agree that FFXIV could really use something like it...
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  7. #47
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    Twillin Kupopo
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 60
    its a little heartbreaking having over 8+ dungeons to do and going a few weeks without ANY of them dropping their item. How am i supposed to want to do this if the rng is so bad AND i have to do it this many more times? did you really really need to make the drop rate so low?

    Im losing the will to keep trying...i can only do so much in a day and when im stuck running dungeons that drop nothing thats like an hour or 2 of no progress anywhere
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  8. #48
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    Ardor Nerfed
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    Mateus
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    Archer Lv 50
    You know, i dont mind a good grind...hell, i didnt mind light farming because it was mesureable.... Now with this RNG bullcrap... some people i know did theirs in less than 60 dungeons total!... and others need 60 tries for one of them.... Common SE...get a clue...
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  9. #49
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    chidarake's Avatar
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    Chida Rake
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    Omega
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    personally I found this quite easy to get, but I did have to run bray and hala hm quite afew times for those drops.

    I have heard and know people who have had to run dungeons many times and gotten no drop though but that is rng for you.

    hopefully they tune down the rng come expansion cus its starting to get to be a bit much, with all the different aspects of the rng system in place from daily stuff to relics and crafting.

    I don't mind grinds and even long ones but all this rng is getting rather annoying.
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  10. #50
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    Maero's Avatar
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    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    True it is RNG but a really bad form of rng.
    How some can have all dungeons complete in a week and drops are like having to run dungeons once or twice, others it takes 20+ runs per dungeon, that to me is just bad design
    And having added the crafting component... good thing FC crafters have helped otherwise worst idea ever
    My other classes are on hold until this hopefully changes (drop rate increases, less gc seals, lower cost for other items)
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