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    Player
    Ardors's Avatar
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    Character
    Ardor Nerfed
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 50
    You know, i dont mind a good grind...hell, i didnt mind light farming because it was mesureable.... Now with this RNG bullcrap... some people i know did theirs in less than 60 dungeons total!... and others need 60 tries for one of them.... Common SE...get a clue...
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    chidarake's Avatar
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    Character
    Chida Rake
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    personally I found this quite easy to get, but I did have to run bray and hala hm quite afew times for those drops.

    I have heard and know people who have had to run dungeons many times and gotten no drop though but that is rng for you.

    hopefully they tune down the rng come expansion cus its starting to get to be a bit much, with all the different aspects of the rng system in place from daily stuff to relics and crafting.

    I don't mind grinds and even long ones but all this rng is getting rather annoying.
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    Gridania
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    Character
    I'shtola Maqa
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    True it is RNG but a really bad form of rng.
    How some can have all dungeons complete in a week and drops are like having to run dungeons once or twice, others it takes 20+ runs per dungeon, that to me is just bad design
    And having added the crafting component... good thing FC crafters have helped otherwise worst idea ever
    My other classes are on hold until this hopefully changes (drop rate increases, less gc seals, lower cost for other items)
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    Character
    Fluffya Appleton
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 67
    No drop last 4 days. Had run Pharos/Amdapor Keep over 65 time.
    At that point, i know i will never redo that quest or do hardmode roulette again.
    Sick of those dungeons...
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    Lilyanna's Avatar
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    Character
    Mia Koji
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 53
    idk why they don't have a limit put in place for this ... To me, it feels harder the second time around, when I feel it should be easier and reward you for doing it again.
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    Mar 2014
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Katrina Von-gabrone
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    It's the old Atma 2.0, new and improved for increased hatred! I ran Snowcloak probably 40 times before I got the drop. I didn't mind Pharos, I love the music, but it took a good 15-20 times, same for Amdapor. Now I'm on Wanderer's Palace, with no luck in sight. RNG is just a lazy method of doing things. At least the Atma books had set goals, and easily tracked progress. RNG gives you the finger time and time again.
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    MistyMew's Avatar
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    Limsa
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    Character
    Misty Mew
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    Because of the rng, I only will ever do my blm, I did indeed get the drops fairly easily.

    Regardless of my progression though, I strongly suggest to SE to vastly improve drop rates or add a hidden "cap" of about 15 or so to help those that have truly hideous rng, its just not right.

    It also would help ppl do more then 1...isn't that a good thing for the game?
    I know some indeed will go crazy and do more then one or 2 anyway, but the majority, (I would lay money down) will not if the rng has the possibility to stay so so bad.

    Increase please SE for all those still trying, and for those that would do more then one if so.
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Ashley Osteichthyes
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 100
    The worst part about all of the grind. That moment when you realize that you could have done literally anything either productive or fun. With the amount of time this quest-line requires if you have bad luck, you could do so many things. You could learn a new language, learn an instrument, meet new people, investigate a better career path. In fact by doing this quest-line you are literally hurting yourself IRL needlessly.

    The best stages IMO were: the original, animus books(-fates), and lights (post update). They may have been grindy, but they are definite set goals that you could target at your leisure without having to worry about if your run was literally a waste of time.

    Between this, TT card grinding, and IMO a disappointing assortment of mini games in the Saucer this game has become a lot less fun.
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    Character
    Robert Black
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    I must be the only on with the worse rng. I am 0 for 101 and counting on blayfox hard. Rng is very unfair system. I rather there be a goal in place or a progression system where you see the progress you are making.
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    bloodSp3c's Avatar
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    Character
    Renary Devarian
    World
    Ravana
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    over 50 runs of Pharos and still no drop. fuck this game >.<
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